COMMENTS BY LAWYERS

 
   Over the years, I have observed "marketeers" (pronounced like "mouseketeers" of Mickey Mouse fame) and several paralegals make lots of wild and baseless claims about lawyers: "they take a secret oath" and "they have allegiance to the English monarchy" or "they are part of the BAR, the British Accreditation Registry". Once they make these comments, they then start hawking their wares: "Here, buy this corporate sole and it will free you," or "let me sell you this ticket to exit the 'system' -- all you have to do is 'recapture' your straw man!!!" I have detected that the market price for a "corp sole" is usually 4 grand. But of course if that is too "rich for your blood", there are cheaper products that get rid of your 14th Amendment citizenship.

    I address the above and other issues elsewhere. Here, I state as follows:

1. To become a lawyer, I did not and neither did any other lawyer take any secret oath. Lawyers take an oath to support and defend state constitutions and that of the United States. When I was sworn, I did it on the front steps of the Alabama Supreme Court, in front of God, my parents and everybody else. 

2. To become a lawyer, I was not required to have allegiance to anything British, whether the King, the Queen, or the alleged BAR, the British Accreditation Registry. In fact, I have no allegiance to anything that is not American and this is the condition of perhaps 99.99% of American lawyers. The only exceptions are those lawyers who for some reason might also be a member of some British bar association, but I have never met such a lawyer.

3. An organization named British Accreditation Registry does not exist, and such contention is nothing but the fabrication of the above mentioned marketeers. I have challenged the proponents of this wild idea to offer any proof of the existence of this allegedly sinister organization and they have offered none. The simple fact of the matter is that those asserting this BAR contention are unmitigated liars. They have no reservation about making fraudulent statements, so be very careful when you buy any of their "legal products."

    I have asked several lawyers and a law student to provide to me their opinion about the flaky BAR argument and their comments appear below.

arrow From Frederick Graves, ESQUIRE, of  Stuart, Florida:
     e-mail address: attorney@jurisdictionary.com
      (Frederick operates the JurisDictionary website)

Dear Larry,

   Not only did I take no oath to any British Accreditation Registry, I will meet anyone who says otherwise in the streets of downtown Stuart and fight over it!

Here is the oath for Florida lawyers.
 

arrow From Robert C. Aldrich, Attorney at Law
    e-mail address: rob-law@swbell.net

Larry:

Concerning your excellent refutation of the British Accreditation Registry fantasy, and your request for other lawyers to assist you in refuting the "BAR" argument, I lend my support.

I don't know what I can add to your meticulous refutation of the BAR imbecility.

Experientially, however, I was once discharged by a client who fell prey to promoters of the BAR lie.  Attorney-client privilege and confidentiality prohibit me from saying much more than the advice given to my client by these hucksters could be published under the title “What to do and when to do it if you want to go to jail and serve the greatest possible term of incarceration, while at the same time waiving all possible grounds for appeal.” As an attorney, I could not have developed a more comprehensive and effective course of conduct for my client to follow if he had hired me to maximize the certainty, length, and severity of his incarceration and also to guarantee any appeal filed would be denied.  Their advice didn’t miss a thing in accomplishing these ends.

I am a member of the California Bar and took the oath required by California law. I did not take any secret oath. I am not a member of the British Accreditation Registry, which is the figment of somebody's imagination.

I applaud your time and effort spent exposing the factual and legal lunacy of the BAR and other arguments on your website.


arrow Peter Gibbons, Esq.
     e-mail address: LawDr1@attglobal.net


When I became an attorney, I took the oath required by California law. I did not take any secret oath, and I certainly did not become a member of the British Accreditation Registry. Only recently have I heard anything about this non-existent entity named British Accreditation Registry, which is the fabrication of some fertile minds.