Due South creator Paul Haggis dropped by the Due South newsgroup to chat with the fans for a little. Below you'll find questions (some edited for brevity) as well as his fascinating and sometimes irreverant replies. This 'thread' is also available on www.dejanews.com as well as other newsgroup search engines. This website is merely a much easier way of reading his Q&A.
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1: Many fans have an emotional tie to Due South. Did the creative team feel this connection as well?
2: Was Diefenbaker deaf?
If you are asking medically, the answer is yes -- his eardrums burst when he saved Fraser. But as to where he could hear in any other sense of the word -- well, one has his suspicions. He certainly seemed to be able to turn it on and turn it off at will, didn't he? 3: Did Fraser and Victoria consummate their relationship at Fortitude Pass?
They did not make love until she returned, in Fraser's apartment. 4: Which do you consider to be the least successful episode?
5: What did you think of seasons 3 / 4 and the direction in which Paul Gross took the series.
Also, the writing required a very deft touch, and when you are shooting every day you can't be writing every day -- you can't be coming up with clever plots and supervising the directors and editing and doing the music. A good series is about the fine details, the nuances -- and that takes a tremendous amount of time and effort. 6: How did Fraser Sr's ghost come about?
When I called him up to ask him to do "Gift of the Wheelman," he thought I was joking. I loved that character -- I had so much fun with him. Even thinking up little things like his hat with the back cut off, and how embarrassing that must be to him in the afterlife, walking around like that. It was great, great fun. 7: Is there any episode you would truly have liked to have done... a plot, etc., that perhaps wasn't done because you weren't with the show, or it was cost-prohibitive, or the Powers That Be would have had a coronary if just presented with the idea? For example, how would you have resolved Victoria had she come back?
As for Victoria, I didn't know how I'd bring her back, but I surely would have enjoyed doing it. At the beginning of the third season, I suggested such a storyline, but Paul [Gross] told me that the Victoria character wasn't that popular among viewers, so he didn't plan to do anything with her. I respectfully disagreed, but it was his show at that point -- and in a way, if she had to disappear forever, I'm glad she left on my train. [Addendum] - The Eric story was how I was going to end that season, before we decided to do "Victoria's Secret" -- so no regrets, at least in that regard. And yes, since we didn't do that storyline, they later had Fraser Sr. quote it, as I recall. Though I could be wrong about the sequence, I often am. It's quite wonderful, sitting in front of your word processor, thinking "okay, what's a friend?" and then getting the answer. Fabulous feeling. 8: A fan mentions dialogue such as "She shot me in the hat" ("Free Willie") and the surreal discussion about Fraser's hat afterwards. Were scenes like that fun to shoot?
Just goes to prove what I've always said. I pretty much only know one plot. I just keep rewriting it. 9: There has been a lot of debate and fanfic about the note Fraser left on Dief's cage for Ray in "Victoria's Secret". What did the note say?
I remember that it was SUPPOSED to give you the impression that he was saying goodbye to Dief, but now I can't remember what my real intention was! I'll have to ask David Shore if he remembers -- or I'll watch "Victoria's Secret" again, something I haven't done for years. My most humble apologies. But I haven't given up yet. 10: What is your interpretation of Fraser's actions at the train station in "Victoria's Secret"?
And remember, he only had a split second to make his decision -- right there -- with the train pulling out -- and all the pressure on. But do I think he thought of Ray? I would say he had to. "You can only be betrayed by people you trust" Oh dear, now I'm quoting one series in discussing another. Has to stop.) 11: Where was Fraser Sr's cabin located?
We were supposed to have some fun and fancy grafix to make that clear, but Alliance said it was too expensive. So, since it didn't really matter to the story, I let it be what it was, and let the viewer read into it, or the reader view into it, if one is only dealing with the script. Speaking of which -- how are those British novelizations of my scripts? I skimmed one when they sent it to me (fully "written", without my input -- Alliance didn't think it necessary) and it was, frankly, pretty darn awful. Flat-footed writing, no sense of style, nothing left to the imagination, and well, dull, as I recall. Did they get better? I do hope so. 12: I recall you saying that you created Renfield Turnbull as a Mountie who was even more 'by the book' than Fraser. Did you have any long-term aspirations for him (in third season, he turned into the office dufus)?
12a: And is there any backstory on Turnbull?
13: Can you relate any amusing anecdotes from your time working on DS?
14: Are you on a break from Family Law right now? You seem to be spending an awful lot of time on the newgroup?
15: In EZ Streets you had a little in-joke to DS in one episode . Think you'll do the same on Family Law?
16: Were you a big Sarah McLachlan fan before Due South?
17: How do you think the 'new' Ray storyline was handled? I thought Callum Keith Rennie did a great job overall. It must have been quite a tough spot to fill after David Marciano left.
18: One thing I enjoy about Due South is it's ability to laugh at everyone. Canadian stereotypes about Americans, American stereotypes about Canadians...all are handled with a friendly wink. Negative stereotypes like Ray's rudeness are balanced by positive stereotypes like his pit-bull loyalty and tenaciousness. With one exception. The FBI. To a man, they are portrayed as rude, arrogant, heavy-handed imbeciles who's only redeeming factor is that they are too stupid to seriously get in Fraser and Ray's way. Now, I'm not offended by this. I understand this is a very tongue-in-cheek TV show, and I personally love a lot of the FBI jokes that were made ("they couldn't find Waldo if they took the book home for the weekend"), but I am curious. Did the FBI do something to you or Canada that makes them come across as such jerks? Or did you just decide to portray them that way for a laugh?
Nope, haven't had anything against them since their terrible behavior in the sixties and seventies, so it's nothing personal. And sometimes, with the limited time of a one-hour show, you do need to sketch some characters with less depth than others. But in this case it was an oversight -- and a regrettable one. I hate any characters coming off as just one thing. It's the contradictions that make the characters worth watching. So, I guess we just missed that one. As to the other seasons, you'll have to ask the other producers. 19: Did you seek a specific audience when you wrote Due South?
The only thing I knew for certain was that it 's the "flaws" that make us fall in love with people. And it's certainly why we love our heros. We admire their daring and their bravery, but it we know that they are scared out of their wits when doing their brave deeds, we love them that much more. It was Fraser's fears and insecurities that made we want to spend time with him, that made me want to explore him. And, when I create someone like that, I just hope that the audience will be as intrigued as I am. Because if you just go out and say "what do people want to see in a character and I;ll write that", well, in my opinion you are a hack. That doesn't mean I don't care what the audience thinks -- it matters very much to me, and I listen to what they have to say -- AFTER I've done the thing. And when they embrace a character, it makes you feel wonderful. And when they reject one...I gotta admit it really stings. 20: In some scenes in "North", David Maricano carried Paul Gross around on his shoulder. Since Paul is a bigger and a little heavier guy than David, did you guys have to help David get Paul onto his shoulder? Was this scene shot more than once? Are there any funny stories to tell about making this episode that you would like to share with the fans?
Farce is VERY hard to do right, and Paul Gross and David [Marciano] really shone at it in that episode -- I think a lot of that having to do with the terrific director, Richard Lewis (Richard went on to work with me on my last two series -- in fact he's coming back to do another episode right after Xmas.) I was writing and preparing to direct an episode (forgotten the name of it) during the time "North" was shooting, so I wasn't around, and didn't have to produce the series that year, so Richard, Kathy or Jeff would be the person to ask for stories -- and I'll be seeing Jeff next week (he's writing an episode of Family Law), so I'll ask him to check in. But no, I don't think David needed any help getting Paul on his shoulder -- though God knows he had to carry him for many hours and many takes of the same thing! Hey guys-- 21: A fan mentions "Superman's Song," which was used in the Pilot movie.
22: Some fans have thought that the song "From a Million Miles" was written especially for "Victoria's Secret" because it fits so perfectly. So, was it the song that inspired the snow image which inspired the story? Or did you already have the storyline in mind (as foreshadowed in “You Must Remember This”) when you heard the song?
Sometimes, like during the shooting of the pilot, I knew the dance-music song over Fraser at the airport was going to work perfectly long before we shot the sequence. The director, Fred Gerber (who is now directing and producing my new series, Family Law) just stared blankly at me and said "no, we're going to need some Chicago Blues or something like that -- not some Islamic chanting about a girl who is considering suicide -- it just ain't gonna wor!." I smiled in an annoying sort of way that I have and assured him it'd be great. And it did work great, at least it always makes me smile when I watch the sequence. Often times during the first season the network reps would get all upset with me about the music and tell me to take it out or replace it with something more appropriate -- one sequence that comes to mind is in "Chinatown". Over the ending sequence, when the father was bringing the box to the bad guys in order to free his son -- and Fraser and Ray were racing across town to stop him -- I'd placed a celtic piece – Loreena [McKennit], if I recall correctly -- and they just flipped out and told me it had to be something really really upbeat, chase music kinda stuff, and it should be Chinese, not Celtic! I thanked them for their opinion --- and we received more mail about that song and that sequence than we'd received about anything else to date. After that, the network kept a little quieter and let me do what I wanted. What people failed to understand is that you have to revel in contradictions, not avoid them. If you don't embrace a pardox, you can't really fully enjoy this flawed state of humanity that we roll around in. 23: A fan remarks that bringing back Fraser Sr. was an excellent choice, and how it would have been difficult for anyone else to fit that role.
24: What was it like working with Leslie Nielsen? In "Manhunt," he played a much more serious character than in “All the Queen's Horses.” Did he have any input in that?
So, that's a long way of saying, no. He liked the script, so he did it. 25: Could Meg have been "the one" for Benton?
And I suppose if he REALLY wanted to go with her, he could have gone to Providence. [[Note: For those who don't know, Melina Kanakaredes, who played Victoria, is in the successful NBC series, Providence.]] 26: I was wondering where did the idea for having a super hero mountie come to Chicago and fight crime came from? Did it come in a dream
It was Jeff Sagansky's idea, he was the head of CBS at the time. Robert Lantos of Alliance had been pitching him some really corny ideas, but one of them, he thought, could be something. So he called me and said "what about a series about a Mountie or a trapper or somebody from way up north who comes to big city USA?" I told him I'd think about it, hung up and sunk into an immediate depression -- why did the networks always bring me their dumbest ideas? And then the thought hit me -- what if I turned all of their expectations upside down? They want this superhero kind of guy, what if I make him both a hero and incredibly human? And then I thought of all those great movies and serials I saw at the movies in my youth (I was lucky to catch the tail end of that fabulous era) and I remembered Sgt. Preston and his wonderdog Yukon King, and thought -- these guys wouldn't last two seconds in big city USA -- unless everything thing they thought and said, everything they believed in, truth, honor, compassion, civility, offering a helping hand to your enemy...what if they all actually worked... And wouldn't that drive a big city cop just crazy? And I was off. I called Jeff back the next morning and told him I would do it and started writing. They had no idea what they were getting. I didn't let Alliance see the script until it was all done, and then their only concern was how much it would cost. For the record -- my first thought was to make Ray a smart, jaded, big city cop who[was] an American Indian (reversing and updating the old Tonto stereotype). But the network didn't like that idea. So I made him Hispanic -- but we couldn't find an Hispanic actor that we liked for the role. David came in, read it, I loved him, so I changed the character to be Italian. 27: We don't ever make any money from it, but there is still in the back of my mind the thought that this activity might be objectionable (or actionable!) in your eyes. Does fanfiction bother you?
27a: Due South also has a very lively "slash" fandom. Fans who see romantic subtext between Fraser and Ray have developed the subtext they perceived on-screen into a whole genre of fanfiction.
27b: Although I don't write slash, I do perceive romantic subtext between Fraser and Ray in the show. My question is, do you have a problem with some fans actively discussing the series as depicting a closeted relationship between two men who are very much in love with each other?
27c: Even if you respond that you despise fanfic and slash, I don't think they will go away. In fact, I would still finish the fanfic story I'm working on--because my muse won't let me stop.
28: A fan asked if Paul had any input (such as in advisory capacity) for the last season of Due South?
I started out to consult. When he was offered the final season, Mr. Gross called me and said he would only do the final season(s) of the show if I consulted. I thought it a tremendous opportunity for him, and encouraged him to executive produce the series, and I agreed to consult He consulted with me for the next several months, while planning the series; (among other things, I gave him the concept of how to introduce the "new Ray," since David wasn't available, and he decided to use it). At that point, for financial reasons, Mr. Gross and Alliance decided not to honor their contract with me--or, to be fair, suggested that we had no contract--and told me that my services weren't necessary. Regrettably, I had to sue the production company for fraud and breach of contract. Mr. Gross took the opportunity to make disparaging remarks in the media about myself and my family. I refused all interviews on the matter; the above information was in the paper, so I'm not disclosing anything new. In any case, Alliance has made me a very substantial settlement offer, I have accepted, and won't discuss it any further, other than to tell you that I was very hurt, confused and disappointed by the actions of people whom I once regarded as my very good friends. None of this lessened my enthusiasm for the show, or my respect for Mr. Gross' many talents. It's odd, because even as the author, once you breath life into characters, you can't help but believe in them. I just have to remind myself that the character of Constable Benton Fraser that I created sprang out of my head, and had the values that I imbued upon him. His charm and wit, bravery, humility and loyalty are attributes that, whether they exist in others or not, we should continue to strive to attain. Fraser exists, and always will, exactly as I created him on page one, coming across the pass. He's a fabulous character, if I say so myself. I just love him. And Mr. Gross played him impeccably; his spirit of cooperation and collaboration were top notch, and I truly enjoyed every moment we spent together. I can't ask for more. 'Nuff said. Okay? 29: A fan asks if he has his own domain name (such as www.paulhaggis.com).
I recently called a "famous" friend to congratulate him on his new series, which launched this last fall. I went on about how I loved it and what a terrific job he was doing. He thanked me, genuinely, then asked what I'd been up to lately. I couldn't bring mention that I had a new show that was in the top 20. I said, oh, you know, the usual. And after a few more minutes discussing his show we signed off. My own domain? It sounds much too large -- I can barely figure out what's in my refrigerator. 30: A fan asks about breaking into the business, and publishing novels.
I have no experience at all in the world of novels, but I've been around enough novelists to know that it works pretty much the same way it does in the world of screenplays -- you have to get the agent first, because no matter how good you believe your work may be, until an agent believes in it, a publisher, or studio, will never take it seriously. I know that the Writers Guilds in Canada and the U.S. have lists of agents who will accept unsolicited material -- I don't know where you get that same list for agents who rep novelists. And it may be that you can just by-pass them and get the list of publishers from that big Writers resource book (i forget the name of it right now) and go through the list to see what each publisher is looking for -- because each has distinctly different needs -- but that's all I could suggest. If it's good, it will sell -- maybe not right away, but it will sell. If it doesn't, write another one, and the same rules will apply to it -- only, with each thing we right, we get better. Sorry I couldn't give you an easier answer, but that's the way I did it. And if it was easy.... Best of luck. I hope it knocks them dead and there is a bidding war. Hey guys-- |