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Title: duron / tbird barebones kt133, pci
modem, microatx case, floppy, $79 shipped or $74 shipped
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 12:24 AM Posted By:
hans007 Rank: Diamond Member
http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?PAGE=PROFRAME&PROD_ID=28617&fp=T
this
looks like a great deal to me. the case appears to be the same
one that micron used to use on their systems. these could
actually be left over barebones, from micron's duron / tbird
systems, since they shut down their consumer line $89.
kt133
board, floppy, PCImodem and case with power supply, kt133, 2
dimms, built in sound. agp slot.
need to use the 15 off
40 or 20 off 100 new user coupon.
to get it over $100,
pick up the $19.96 logitech first mouse wheel optical if you
want, which i think is good to add to a cheapo system
there
is also a $9.99 cheapo 2 button mouse, dont know if that will
get it high enough, you'd be a few cents off 100, but maybe
shipping is part of the $100
Combine with say a
tnt2 16mb pci (saw at fry's for $19), a duron 750 (price watch
says $27) and a fan ($8 for like coolermaster) and maybe 128mb
of ram for $15 , and you have a nice system. get the 8x philips
cdrom at bestbuy for $30 after rebates, and the 30 gig western
dig for $50 after rebate, a cheap keyboard and monitor, and
you'd have a nice system for around $250 not counting the
monitor.
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edited by: hans007 on 07/17/2001 00:51:53
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 12:41 AM Posted By:
Delbert Rank: Member
Also,not
to start any amd/intel wars or thread crap, but geeks has this
810 barebonesHEREfor
a good price ($82) also. It has CDrom mouse keyboard and
speakers. dont forget the mastercard 10% discount.
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edited by: Delbert on 07/17/2001 00:43:20
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 12:42 AM Posted By:
Hgabriel Rank: Senior Member
Linked
This isn't so bad. I like it.
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edited by: Hgabriel on 07/17/2001 00:43:52
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 3:08 AM Posted By:
Jokeram Rank: Senior Member
looks
like a good deal to me..
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 3:12 AM Posted By:
Slappy400 Rank: Junior Member
This
is an old Micron case...I have to say, after working on them
enough I came to like these cases....they are one of the best
"little" cases I used. Highly recommend to anyone who
doesn't mind ON-BOARD video with no AGP slot.
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 3:32 AM Posted By:
MisterE Rank: Senior Member
Slappy400:
I'm pretty sure that this system doesn't have built-on video
(thankfully). I'm pretty sure that it has an AGP socket (look
at the picture), though it is mislabled in the product
description ("One HEP 4x/2x slot").
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edited by: MisterE on 07/17/2001 03:34:02
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 4:04 AM Posted By:
bordjon Rank: Member
I'm a
little confused. What exactly is a HEP 4x/2x slot? is that an
agp slot? i mean it kinda looks like it in the pic but i cant
really tell.
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 4:04 AM Posted By:
DongTran Rank: Golden Member
if it
does have the AGP slot, then yes this would be a very hot deal
in my book.
256mb ram for like $40 duron 750 for
like $35 40gb hard drive for like $110 some kind of
smelly gf2mx for like $75
that's like a whole system for
like $350. DAMN YOU GUYS!@!!!@@$ now i have to go buy like 4 of
those...
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 4:09 AM Posted By: BA Rank:
Diamond Member
Based
on the picture, there's no onboard vid(there's just the 1 com
port) and an AGP slot. And I assume AGP=HEP.
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 4:31 AM Posted By:
hans007 Rank: Diamond Member
yeah i
really think these are just what was leftover whenmicron closed
their consumer business. a lot of companies do this, they just
take the logos off and such. i know HP does, my dads company
takes the faceplates off, puts on new ones, and reflashes the
bioses, on some of them to sell as non-HP machines
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 7:00 AM Posted By:
mjh0o Rank: Senior Member
whered
you get the 20 off 100 new user coupon i dont see it i only
find the $10 off $50
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 7:09 AM Posted By:
Ziptar Rank: Member
"30
gig western dig for $50 after rebate"
What
Rebate ???
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 7:18 AM Posted By:
hans007 Rank: Diamond Member
a
friend of mine said there was a 30 gig western dig for $50
after rebate at bestbuy or something with a pricematch. And
that free philips burner after pricematch
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 8:59 AM Posted By:
cricky Rank: Member
Anyone
know anything more on the motherboard that's included? Maker,
anything? I've gotta guess that it has an AGP port from the
picture. I'm trying to throw together a cheap Duron system for
a friend as a wedding present, and this looks REAL
promising.
--Christopher
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 1:27 PM Posted By:
gjc12 Rank: Member
Anyone
know how many PCI slots there are and are available? What about
drive bays? I'm having trouble telling from the picture. If
someone buys this and receives it let us know the details!
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 1:41 PM Posted By:
Flatbroke Rank: Member
I
think this is the same barebones. Not much additional info. The
picture shows a agp slot, but is the picture accurate?. here
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edited by: Flatbroke on 07/17/2001 13:46:10
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 1:46 PM Posted By:
gjc12 Rank: Member
Oops -
ignore that last post of mine - I'm an idiot. 3 PCI slots, one
taken up by the modem. 4 bays, one 3.5 taken. one 3.5 free. 2
5.25" free.
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 1:46 PM Posted By: Hook Rank:
Member
Been
looking around for info on this (I want to upgrade my wife's
system). Here's what I found out so far:
The system is
from Andara
Technologies and can be purchased from them for $109 (+15
shipping).
The motherboard looks like it is a GVC AR862
(more info about it here).
Andara's
web site has the "misprint" HEP slot but the Synmicro
desription says AGP.
I tried getting into GVC's web site
but it seems to be down.
PS. Looks like the Micron
RS2150A Duron 700 uses the same GVC mobo (link)
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 2:00 PM Posted By:
DaHan Rank: Senior Member
If the
shipping is only $4, that's real good. Anyone who has this can
confirm AGP slot?
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 2:03 PM Posted By:
bond007taz Rank: Member
hey
great deal, but where do i find the $20
coupon?
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 2:05 PM Posted By:
DaHan Rank: Senior Member
go
teckbargain, but seems I can only get a $10.
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 2:05 PM Posted By:
bond007taz Rank: Member
hey
great deal, but where do i find the $20
coupon?
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 2:10 PM Posted By:
hoihtah Rank: Golden Member
haha...
this is so funny.
i donno anything about HEP.
but
if it really indeed is a misprint. can you imagine someone
giving the description over the phone... reading...
one
ae
- gee - pee
port
and the person on the other end reading
one
aeech
- ee -- pee
port
hehe...
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edited by: hoihtah on 07/17/2001 14:11:03
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 2:15 PM Posted By:
wintermute908 Rank: Member
Im a
little rough on my Russian : ), but this site
has some info on the GVC AR862 board down at the bottom of the
page. Mentions Realtek RTL8139 controller and S3 Savage4.
Anyone able to decipher this stuff? Babelfish didn't work well
for me...
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 2:18 PM Posted By:
Flatbroke Rank: Member
hans007,
thanks, I can't get the 20 off 100 coupon to work on my over
$100 order (I "signed up" at techbarxxxxs) but the
darn $10 off for new customers appears at checkout and that
seems like it keeps the $20 off 100 from working, anyone get
this to work? how?
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 2:27 PM Posted By:
wintermute908 Rank: Member
Still
thinking about whether to do this or not. Overstock said they
have 250+ of them in stock so we should have a little while to
do research : ). Found some more info at this site.
Here's
the info from the ZDNET review linked above:
GVC
AR862
Chipset: VIA KT133 VT8363 CPU: AMD Socket-A
mechanism Memory: 2 DIMM 32/64/128/256/512 MB SDRAM Video:
Integrated
Savage4 2D/3D Audio:
VT82C686A Integrated AC97 Controller, AC97 Codec UDMA:
ATA66 or PIO mode up to mode 4 LAN: Realtek RTL8139
10/100Mbps. RearPanel: 4 USB, 2 Serial Ports, 1 Parallel, 2
PS/2, 1 IrDA, 3 Fan connector Dimension: 9.6' x 8.9'
Formfactor: Micro ATX
Looks like unless both ZDNET
& that Russian www.fcenter.ru I posted a link to earlier
are wrong this thing does have integrated Video & LAN. The
ZDNET reviews gives it the following rating:
<<
Stability
5.0 Performance 4.0 Value 3.0 Ease of Setup 3.0
Overall 4.0 >>
What
do you all think?
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 2:36 PM Posted By:
DaHan Rank: Senior Member
We are
not so sure if it's a GVC AR862. Even yes, since it has a AGP
slot, video can be disabled, right?
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 2:53 PM Posted By:
Flatbroke Rank: Member
hook,
thanks for the help, where did you find that this motherboard
is in this bundle? DaHan -most boards allow you to disable
the onboard video, some are easy, some are not. Some you have
to install the agp video card AND it's drivers to get onboard
from reinstalling during the switch in some boards. There is
s3tweak for those that want to squeeze the last dying electron
out of the onboard video chip, ok for playing at 640x480, but
not the way to go for a fast gaming rig. Who got any of the
bigger coupons to work? not the 10 off one showing up as the
default?
Edit: sorry, got the members names wrong
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edited by: Flatbroke on 07/17/2001 15:02:32
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 2:54 PM Posted By:
wintermute908 Rank: Member
Im not
positive its a GVC AR862 either, but from what I've been
researching I hope it is. Looks like a stable, AMD approved
board for an unbeatable price. I just called up Overstock.com
and asked them to get back to me on what mobo Manufacturer and
model no. are. The women said she would send the request to her
computer dept and that they would get back to me as soon as the
could. Only problem is that she said it could take more than a
day to find the information...
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 2:56 PM Posted By:
bond007taz Rank: Member
so any
word on where to find the $20 coupon?
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 2:58 PM Posted By:
bordjon Rank: Member
I'm
pretty sure there isn't any onboard vid if that pic is correct.
It looks like it just has a serial, parallel, couple usb,
gamepad/midi ports and the audio jacks. If it had onboard vid
it would appear below the serial port.
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 3:07 PM Posted By:
Flatbroke Rank: Member
bond007taz
go here
look on the right hand side, scroll down to overstock.com info.
several things like that listed there. click on the one that
looks most tasty. (I couldn't get the one I wanted to show up
on my order page as promised tho, so backed out)
Edit,
hope I don't get in trouble for helping someone get a coopon
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edited by: Flatbroke on 07/17/2001 15:52:10
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 3:28 PM Posted By: Hook Rank:
Member
The
descriptions that are saying this system has built in video are
also saying it has a built in network adator...
I'm
thinking these ones are wrong and leaning toward believing the
descriptions at Andara
and SynMicro.
Also,
it looks like GVC and BCM
might be the same company...
As I was writing, just got
a reply back from Andara about the "HEP" slot:
"Yes,
that is suppose to be an AGP slot. Thank you for pointing out
this error.
Andara Technologies"
I think
I'll go ahead and order one now...
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 3:32 PM Posted By:
mchang Rank: Junior Member
Same
deal as here at tccomputers:
linky
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 3:33 PM Posted By:
bond007taz Rank: Member
does
anyone have the link to techbargins.com? I have tried
www.techbargins.com and it comes up as invalid - anyone else
got the $20 coupon to work with the overstock
deal?
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 3:42 PM Posted By:
grimreaper19 Rank: Member
it
might be this
motherboard
http://support.micronpc.com/apps/onespec.asp?Hub=MBD001137-xx&Include=
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 3:42 PM Posted By:
wintermute908 Rank: Member
Well,
I just got a call back from Andara Technologies and they said
it has a BCM GT133KT board in it. But when I check the
www.bcmcom.com site they say that board has 3 dimm slots, while
Synmicro, Overstock & the Andara site all say it only has
2. Something odd is going on here...
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 3:45 PM Posted By:
Flatbroke Rank: Member
duplicate
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edited by: Flatbroke on 07/17/2001 15:53:52
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 3:48 PM Posted By:
ScrapSilicon Rank: Member
Just
called Overst***.com and they said they would email me as soon
as they determined if this comes with a Drivers CD or as the
description says "Downloadable drivers and manual" If
this has the above mentioned(and I do believe it does)
motherboard (GVC 862) The site gvc.com is not coming up and
And***t***.com does not list Drivers neither on their site
...Edit >also this is clearly listed as KT133 with 686A
SouthBridge if it is Savage based chipset it would be a
KM133.... more than my 2 cents...
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edited by: ScrapSilicon on 07/17/2001 15:56:14
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 3:51 PM Posted By:
scsiohio Rank: Junior Member
60
days limited - manufacturer maybe not
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 3:54 PM Posted By:
bond007taz Rank: Member
ok,
got the link and signed up with overstock.com and I am still
unable to get the coupon - oh well i might as well order, sweet
deal without the coupon, would be better with it though!
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 3:56 PM Posted By:
Expandable Rank: Senior Member
Manufacturer:
GVC Model: AR862 Category: Motherboard Chipset: VIA
KT133, VT8363, o Codename: NULL MSRP: Street Price:
0 Dates Manuf.: 0000-00-00 to 0000-00-00 Record
History: created 2000-10-10. Last modified 2000-12-12 Product
Ratings Stability 5.0 . .
Performance 4.0 . .
Value 3.0 . .
Ease of Setup 3.0 . .
Overall
4.0 . .
Rate this Product
Product Spec:
http://www.gvc.com.tw/eng/asia/mainboard/infobrow.asp?Mod...
Summary: GVC AR862, AMD Socket A Socket-A, VIA KT133 VT8363
or KM 133 VT8365 Description: Model: AR862 Chipset:
VIA KT133 VT8363 or KM 133 VT8365(option)Chipset f CPU:
AMD Socket-A mechanism Memory: 2 DIMM
32/64/128/256/512 MB SDRAM Video: Integrated Savage4
2D/3D Audio: VT82C686A Integrated AC97 Controller, AC97
Codec UDMA: ATA66 or PIO mode up to mode 4 LAN:
Realtek RTL8139 10/100Mbps. RearPanel: 4 USB, 2
Serial Ports, 1 Parallel, 2 PS/2, 1 IrDA, 3 Fan connector
Dimension: 9.6' x 8.9' Formfactor: Micro ATX
Notice
2
Serial Ports and Integrated Savage4 2D/3D.
------------------------- Asus
P3BF PIII 700a @920Mhz ATI AIW Rage 128 256 MB Crucial
PC133 Cas 2.
My
Rig.
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 4:03 PM Posted By:
burnedout Rank: Golden Member
GVC
and BCM are the same company.
BCM made some fairly
decent boards a couple of years ago. Haven't used them since
1998 though.
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 4:13 PM Posted By:
bordjon Rank: Member
Based
on what burnedout said anybody think this could be the same
board? kinda looks like it. without the optional lan of
course.
jibba
jabba foo
oh and this could possibly be a lite on
case? and delta 250w ps? and might not come with the side door?
all speculation.
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 4:19 PM Posted By: Hook Rank:
Member
I just
ordered one. Used a $15 off first time customer code from
Dealcatcher. Total came to $77.95.
Micron PC has the
BIOS update for this board (assuming it is the GVC 862). You
can find it here.
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 4:24 PM Posted By:
Shotokan Rank: Senior Member
<<
does anyone have the link to techbargins.com? I have tried
www.techbargins.com and it comes up as invalid - anyone else
got the $20 coupon to work with the overstock deal?
>>
You misspelled it. Put an "a"
without the quotes after the g.
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 4:33 PM Posted By: Einz Rank:
Golden Member
wow,
very nice deal. probably going to get myself one. thanks!
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 4:35 PM Posted By:
wintermute908 Rank: Member
I
guess I'll found out just which motherboard this is when I get
it. Went ahead and used the $15 off coupon for a total of
$77.95. And yes it does include the case sides

All
my current systems are Intel so I got a quick question. How
much increase in performance am I gonna see with a $59 Athlon
800 as apposed to a $39 Duron 800. Worth the extra $20 bucks?
Thanks...
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edited by: wintermute908 on 07/17/2001 16:41:58
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 4:40 PM Posted By:
Snyder81 Rank: Senior Member
I made
a couple of seperate orders using the $15 coupon for a total of
$77.95 each shipped. Gotta love it. I only have a Celeron
300@450 now, so this will be a nice temp upgrade. I guess we'll
have a few extra comps layin around now
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thing about not planning is that failure comes as a complete
surprise and is not preceded by a period of worry and
depression." -John Preston AOL IM - Snyder81
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Posted: Jul/17/2001 4:42 PM Posted By:
audscott Rank: Senior Member
Hook,
How
much was shipping for you?
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