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Subject: Multiple versions of apps installed.
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 09:26:00 -0500

>My problem is a little
>different. After upgrading to
>1.4 and doing a hotsync I've
>ended up with two versions of
>some of the Franklin Covey
>apps on my Palm Vx. For
>example I now have DRE V1.29
>and DRE V 1.35 and Goals V
>1.29 and 1.35, etc.. When I
>try to use the Palm delete
>function it only lists each
>app, once, so I don't know how
>to delete one.
>
>Ideas?
>

>
What is your A97/FPS/FPO history?
In the past it was required that you delete the FC apps before
installing new ones.

The new HSM's create a real problem in that you install the new apps on a new or hard reset device (after having used a palm before), and the HSM will reinstall the old apps during the 'total restore' (backup buddy emulation) portion of the first hot sync. - probably what happened to you- And it does not matter if you did a Palm uninstall just prior to installing FPS 7.3 or FPO 1.4. If you reuse the same username on the Palm, it did not delete that usernames backup when you uninstalled!!!!

I would try, if it were me, deleting the applications on the Palm. Performing a HotSync. Then using the Palm install tool, install the version you will find in the /add-on subdirectory. Then HotSync twice. That should straighten both your Palm and the backups, out.

BTW: There is a more severe manifestation of this problem, if you are upgrading to a device with a different version Palm OS. You can get a fatal error lockup that you cannot clear on the Palm. This is the result of an incompatible hack or Launcher version in your previous usage. If you have this problem, there are different ways of solving it, depending on the specific situation. Post your froms and tos for
both versions and devices.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

**Not associated with Franklin Covey**
FQ DayPlanner:'92 Ascend/FPS (4.0-6.1/7.1):'93 PPPro:'97 2MB/IR Upgrade '99
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Subject: UnDupe for Franklin PDTL!
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:58:00 -0500

Just went by the Stevenscreek web site and guess what.... they have a custom version of UnDupe for the the Franklin PDTL/Task List application.....

I don't need the custom version any more... but others may.

Yep, got a new computer at work and FPO is NOT installed.
Gosh, the speed of the hotsyncs is amazing and the absence of dupes in normal usage. (The installation of the Outlook links for PocketMirror created some, but, the standard undupe cleaned it up nicely with NO orphaned records!)

FREEDOM AT LAST!
Feels GREAT, too.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

**Not associated with Franklin Covey**
FQ DayPlanner:'92 Ascend/FPS (4.0-6.1/7.3(3/8)):'93
PPPro:'97 2MB/IR Upgrade '99, Palm IIIc:'00 FPO (1.1-1.4):'00 DayTracker/FPC:'00
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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: UnDupe for Franklin PDTL!
From: Joel Young <youngjm@mediaone.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:05:00 -0500

Coe,

Did you install PocketMirror 3.0? Chapura added some new features that address some of the idiosyncricies of Outlook and more sync options to control your sync. So far no problems with their upgrade. If only FC could learn from this.

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: UnDupe for Franklin PDTL!
From: Wayne Mery <wsm0@lehigh.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:15:00 -0500

On 10/16/00 9:58:00 PM, Coe CWCJr wrote:
>Just went by the Stevenscreek web site and guess what....
>they have a custom version of UnDupe for the the Franklin
>PDTL/Task List application.....

found at http://www.stevenscreek.com/pilot/undupefranklin.html

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: limit on # of HSM conduits??
From: Wayne Mery <wsm0@lehigh.edu>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:21:00 -0500

Looking for information re: my questions below.

Tech Support wrote:
>To my understanding, the HotSync Manager has a limited
>amount of space for conduits....
>
>Justin
>Tech Support

OK. But, I find no documented limitations on the number of conduits.

Where is the limitation enforced, on the palm or on the desktop?

What is the max # conduits permited?

Has anyone on this webboard been affected be such a limit?

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: limit on # of HSM conduits??
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 00:31:00 -0500

On 11/14/00 2:21:00 PM, Wayne Mery wrote:
>Looking for information re: my
>questions below.
>
>Tech Support wrote:
>>To my understanding, the HotSync Manager has a limited
>>amount of space for conduits....
>>
>>Justin
>>Tech Support
>
>OK. But, I find no documented
>limitations on the number of
>conduits.
>
>Where is the limitation
>enforced, on the palm or on
>the desktop?
>
>What is the max # conduits
>permited?
>
>Has anyone on this webboard
>been affected be such a limit?

My Palm Programming book from O'Reilly does not indicate that there is a limit in either number or in space. It does go into detail on the differences from the old registry brute force method of setting one up versus using the new conduit manager dll, though.

(It does list a considerable number of 'rope' graffiti shortcuts that I have not posted, yet, though.)

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: New Palm apps (First Impressions)...
From: Terry Oplinger, Jr. <trojhome@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:00:00 -0500

I did get my copy of the new Palm apps, and they installed easily enough. Now that I've used them for a couple of days, I thought I would share some musings.

- Speed: The obvious issue. Anytime any application touches the PDTL database, the app is VERY slow. I noticed an appreciable difference in the speed of the PDTL app when loading. (5 seconds to see the FC logo, 8 seconds for data.) I currently keep 6 months of data on the Palm. Suggestion: Have the FC logo appear immediately. A blank screen is a little confusing... An unknowing user may not understand what is happening to keep the Palm from responding when the screen is blank. The logo is an indication of something happening. Once the PDTL is loaded, it's still slow, why? (Try editing a note on a task, when you are DONE it will take the same 8 seconds to load the list.)

- Speed: The Agenda view for the Appointment Schedule is also very slow... see notes above.

- Wasted space: Why did the priority format change?... Instead of "A1" it now displays "A 1". The extra space isn't really needed for readability (my opinion), so why change it?

- Colors: Excellent... but one criticism. Why did you change the text color? Why not do like FPS and have the background change, keeping black text. It would be immensely easier to read. Currently this can be difficult to discern the text on the white screen.

- More Colors: Why doesn't the category color follow on to the Agenda View? It should.

- Agenda: I like that I can choose the task status on the Agenda, but there are missing choices. Or more to the point...

- Task status: What happened to the status choices that were once there?... Big omission here. This should have never changed. The Task List now does not allow for: In-process complete, Delegated complete, or Forward complete. This should be addressed ASAP. These are important to those of us who use FPS... So, please... Add functionality, don't take it away.

- Details: I like the new layout for the details screen, however there is a question about % Complete. How is this applied? Do you sync this to FPS? Or, is this an Outlook item? If I sync a percentage, will it calculate based on the time I have setup in "Estimated" on the FPS Task? ...By the way, delegate designee still does not sync.

- Minor change: Put the FC logo/menu on the Agenda View. I know that there is space to the left of the time. This would allow us to jump to the other apps quickly. And displaying the FC logo before processing would help notify the user that something is happening.

Terry Oplinger, Jr.
Planner: '88
Ascend: 4.0 thru '97 6.1c
FPS: 7.0 thru 7.3
OnTarget: 2.3
Palm: Since '96... 1000/5000/Pro, III, IIIx, IIIc (OS 3.5)

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: New Palm apps (First Impressions)...
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:28:00 -0500

Ahh, obviously something new has been added. Does that mean FPO 2.0 is out also?

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: New Palm apps (First Impressions)...
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:07:00 -0500

Actually, I have not been able to find where the new Palm Apps from FC have been posted?

On 11/21/00 1:28:00 AM, Coe CWCJr wrote:
>Ahh, obviously something new
>has been added. Does that
>mean FPO 2.0 is out also?
>
>
>While just one opinion among
>many, I hope this information
>was helpful...
>Coe
>
>
>**Not associated with Franklin
>Covey**
>FQ DayPlanner:'92 Ascend/FPS
>(4.0-6.1/7.3(3/8)):'93
>PPPro:'97 2MB/IR Upgrade '99,
>Palm IIIc:'00 FPO
>(1.1-1.4):'00
>DayTracker/FPC:'00
>I can also be found hanging
>around the sites listed and
>hotlinked in my profile.
>I retain the Copyright to all
>my posts and emails.
>Copyright Myths exposed.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: New Palm apps (First Impressions)...
From: Wayne Mery <wsm0@lehigh.edu>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:42:00 -0500

On 11/22/00 8:07:00 AM, Coe CWCJr wrote:
>Actually, I have not been able
>to find where the new Palm
>Apps from FC have been posted?

You have to email a request to FC tech support. According to FC they will not be put on the web site. But the reason given was they don't want just anyone downloading it - it must go only to FPS 7.something customers.

Doesn't make much sense to me, unless it's because two apps are not integrated into a packaged 'install & verification process' like the FPS 7.3 update.

>On 11/21/00 1:28:00 AM, Coe CWCJr wrote:
>>Ahh, obviously something new
>>has been added. Does that

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: New Palm apps (First Impressions)...
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:39:00 -0500

Being a registered owner of both FPS and FPO, I wonder why I was not sent the information?

Coe

On 11/22/00 8:42:00 AM, Wayne Mery wrote:
>On 11/22/00 8:07:00 AM, Coe CWCJr wrote:
>>Actually, I have not been able
>>to find where the new Palm
>>Apps from FC have been posted?
>
>You have to email a request to FC tech
>support. According to FC they will not
>be put on the web site. But the reason
>given was they don't want just anyone
>downloading it - it must go only to FPS
>7.something customers.
>
>Doesn't make much sense to me, unless
>it's because two apps are not integrated
>into a packaged 'install & verification
>process' like the FPS 7.3 update.
>
>>On 11/21/00 1:28:00 AM, Coe CWCJr wrote:
>>>Ahh, obviously something new
>>>has been added. Does that
>
>

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: New Palm apps (First Impressions)...
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:54:00 -0500

On 11/22/00 2:39:00 PM, Coe CWCJr wrote:
>Being a registered owner of
>both FPS and FPO, I wonder why
>I was not sent the
>information?
>
>Coe

[grin]!

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: New Palm apps (First Impressions)...
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 07:50:00 -0500

OK, got them from a friend. (officially of course ;-)

Some of the new features (delegate designee and % complete) may be FPO/Outlook links.

Have not installed yet. Will let you know...

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Subject: New Palm apps (First Impressions)...
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 22:19:00 -0500

Hmmm.....

Well, they seem to co-exist with Datebk4 without problems. The Datebk4 view is much better than the ApptSced view and has the ICON extensions that FC does not support. Stupidity(?) or just lack of common human interface sense still seems to reign in implementation though. Go to a past or future date in the agenda view and select a task to view the details on --- oops, that would be what you would EXPECT it to do,,,, it doesn't, it jumps you to today!

The PDTL addition of the navigation was long overdue, but, I concur on the "A 1" change. I do not understand the color comment, though, Terry. The percent complete does not match the Outlook numbers for those tasks back in history and in fact a forwarded task went from 1 to 47 to 0 percent complete on three sequential forwards. That could be the result of the field not Sync'ing until the new version, though. (Since FPO is no longer loaded my PDTL is stand-alone on the Palm.)

Even their for $$$ (and premium ones at that) palm FC handheld app suite seems to lack significant content compared to what is available as free/shareware.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: New Palm apps (First Impressions)...
From: Terry Oplinger, Jr. <trojhome@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 08:24:00 -0500

The color on the Palm tasks looks like this:
Tasklist
The color on the FPS tasks looks like this:
Tasklist
Why couldn't they just be the same?

Terry Oplinger, Jr.
Planner: '88
Ascend: 4.0 thru '97 6.1c
FPS: 7.0 thru 7.3
OnTarget: 2.3
Palm: Since '96... 1000/5000/Pro, III, IIIx, IIIc (OS 3.5)

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: New Palm apps (First Impressions)...
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:19:00 -0500

On 11/25/00 8:24:00 AM, Terry Oplinger, Jr. wrote:
>The color on the Palm tasks
>looks like this:
Tasklist
The color on the FPS tasks looks like this:
Tasklist
>Why couldn't they just be the
>same?
>Terry Oplinger, Jr.
...
>All ideas, words, phrases, and
>postings are implicitly mine.
>I retain the copyright to All
>posts... learn more here.

I noted that like the 'missing' private control of long ago, there is no reverse control in setting the color. Any bets that the setting is a bit flip in the palm... and quess what I think the explanation is (based on FC's programming thoroughness? ;-)

Hint: In the physical world they are multi-legged!
Answer below

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

Answer:
BUG

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: New TaskList FPO Question
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 07:49:00 -0500

Anyone still using FPO 1.4 with the new Palm TaskList application;

Does it still have the Recurring Task corruption problem?

(Or is this ANOTHER case of adding bells and whistles - color and navigation - without fixing underlying program deficiencies?)

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: New Palm suite...
From: Terry Oplinger, Jr. <trojhome@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 08:03:00 -0500

This past weekend I had an opportunity to take a look at the new Suite now available from FC for Palm and Personal PC devices.

Although I found that most of the tools were available easily enough through other channels (New FC apps from FC Support, other apps from PalmGear, etc), I did notice something rather disturbing.

There are new books available in this suite. However the three original books available for the Palm are not converted for the PPC. What's more discouraging is that the three new books are only available on the PPC... why?

Seems to me that if you converted these documents for use on one platform, it shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to translate it for the other platform.

Seems much like typical FC. Market a product that isn't quite ready, get some revenue, then maybe fix it later... much later. So the big question is, when will the new books be available on both platforms?

Terry Oplinger, Jr.
Planner: '88
Ascend: 4.0 thru '97 6.1c
FPS: 7.0 thru 7.3
OnTarget: 2.3
Palm: Since '96... 1000/5000/Pro, III, IIIx, IIIc, Handspring Visor Prism (OS 3.5.2)

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Subject: New Palm suite...
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 18:22:00 -0500

Do I have to say it.....Deja Vu

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: New Palm suite...
From: Terry Oplinger, Jr. <trojhome@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:03:00 -0500

On 12/18/00 6:22:00 PM, Coe CWCJr wrote:
>Do I have to say it.....Deja
>Vu
>
>
>While just one opinion among
>many, I hope this information
>was helpful...
>Coe
>

Sometimes is just pi$$#$ me off.

Terry Oplinger, Jr.
Planner: '88
Ascend: 4.0 thru '97 6.1c
FPS: 7.0 thru 7.3
OnTarget: 2.3
Palm: Since '96... 1000/5000/Pro, III, IIIx, IIIc, Handspring Visor Prism (OS 3.5.2)

All ideas, words, phrases, and postings are implicitly mine. I retain the copyright to All posts... learn more here.

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: Help with uninstall
From: Cari Kramer <carikramer@netzero.net>
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 08:23:00 -0500

If I wanted to uninstalled Franklin Covey for the palm, would my information on the palm go into palm desktop without losing it? Please any help would be appreciated.
Cari

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: Help with uninstall
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 02:15:00 -0500

On 1/3/01 8:23:00 AM, Cari Kramer wrote:
>If I wanted to uninstalled
>Franklin Covey for the palm,
>would my information on the
>palm go into palm desktop
>without losing it? Please any
>help would be appreciated.
>Cari

Some would and some would not plus it depends on whether you are using FPS or FPO. For FPS, Your Palm becomes the transport mechanism. Task List and DRE/DRoE are unique applications and that information would not transfer while Address and Calender information would.

For FPO, to get to Outlook you use the .pst files, to get to DeskTop you use the Palm, again Task List and DRE data will not transfer.

The sequence of events and actions depend on your exact situation and your from-to configurations.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: Help with uninstall
From: Cari Kramer <carikramer@netzero.net>
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 08:08:00 -0500

Thank you for answering me. I really only have address and calendar stuff. I will make sure I back everything up and give it a try. Thanks again
cari

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: PumaTech's BrowseIt gets 4 stars!
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:31:00 -0500

Well, shucks. I got down to the last word and got bit, because I forgot to turn off the keyboard hack (modem operation with the hack on can generate random fatal faults), but...

I logged in, browsed, and composed a message on this board using my Palm IIIc connected via modem to the internet! And that was with BrowseIt 1.0.... the 2.0 version (due out soon) will let me see the webpages in COLOR, also!

If you have an 8 Meg Palm OS unit and a modem, it is creeping up towards a "must have" rating, from me.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: PumaTech's BrowseIt gets 4 stars!
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:44:00 -0500

Well, it used to, anyway. It is about to start charging for the service and AvantGo already provides the same capability as SnapShot.

Going back down the list to 3 stars.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: OK let's jump (uninstall FC)
From: David McNish <dmcnish@charter.net>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 15:38:00 -0500

I have made the decision to uninstall FC apps from Palm. But I have many questions before starting the process...

1) Palm OS v3.5 vs FC Palm apps
I have already upgraded (thanks FC) ToDo, Address, Datebook, etc to 3.5. Are the only FC apps the Compass, DRE, Goals, Mission, MTL, Roles, TaskList, and Values?

2) Can FPS stay on the PC (just for goals, vaules, etc)? (No intent to sync to the Palm or use the address book etc). (If they can't, no big deal, it's the principles not the software that's important.)

3) What about the Palm desktop?
Did this come on the FC CD-rom? I've downloaded the new version from Palm.com, can't I just use it instead?

4) What about existing info in the DRE and TaskList? Can it be printed out? Is that it? No exporting (I didn't see any)? I do have W2Kme and Access2000.

5) What exactly are the steps?
...sync one last time
...backup one last time
...remove FC apps from Palm
...uninstall FC from the desktop
...install the new Palm desktop
...sync
...IS THAT IT?

6) What about HotSync?
Is this a pure Palm app or is the copy that comes on the FC cdrom hacked to only work with FC apps?

My apologies for the number of questions but I've had it with FC and am ready to join the rest of the Palm community.

Thanks in advance for all help.
David

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: OK let's jump (uninstall FC)
From: Max K <kossfamily@home.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 16:54:00 -0500

Good questions, and I can't wait for the answers. I would like to add a question - assuming I don't want to keep anything to do with FPS on my Palm, how do I replace it with the Palm desktop without losing all my data? Assume I do not have the desktop software - can I just download from the Palm site?

Max

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: OK let's jump (uninstall FC)
From: David McNish <dmcnish@charter.net>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 20:11:00 -0500

The v4 Palm desktop is here...

http://www.palm.com/support/downloads/palmdt_4.html

I think (?) Palm charges for the 3.5 upgrade

http://www.palm.com/support/35upgrade/

If you were an FPS user (my sympathies) you can upgrade to 7.3 and that should provide the latest 3.5 Palm apps.

http://www.franklincovey.com/customercare/techsupport/downloads/7_3_install.html

I'll let you know how it goes.

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: OK let's jump (uninstall FC)
From: David McNish <dmcnish@charter.net>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:31:00 -0500

5) What exactly are the steps?
...sync one last time
...backup one last time
...remove FC apps from Palm
...uninstall FC from the desktop
...install the new Palm desktop
...sync
...IS THAT IT?

Here is what I did and how it turned out.
1) sync'd Palm to the FC desk app one last time. THEN REMOVED PALM FROM THE CRADLE.
2) used FC desk util to backup twice
3) I *DID NOT* remove the FC apps from the Palm (just experimenting)
4) Copied all the \Franklin\Palm PRC files to a safe place along with the backups
5) Uninstall FC desktop app.
6) Downloaded and installed the Palm v4 desktop

7) Fired up the Palm desktop
8) Changed the HotSync setup so the Palm overwrote the desktop.
9. Sync'd

It appears that my address book, and memo's came across undamaged. Of course I wasn't using the standard ToDo app so nothing happened there. Likewise, none of the FC TaskList items came over (didn't expect them to).

Actually, I'm glad that all I have to do is manually transfer the MTL to a memo. Will be a good review.

For the more technical on the forum... here is the sync log...

OK Date Book
OK Address Book
OK To Do List
OK Memo Pad
OK Expense
-- Backing up db CompassDB to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\CompassDB.PDB
-- Backing up db ConnectionDB to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\ConnectionDB.PDB
-- Backing up db NetworkDB to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\NetworkDB.PDB
-- Backing up db Compass to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\Compass.PRC
-- Backing up db FC DRE to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\FC_DRE.PRC
-- Backing up db FC LRG to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\FC_LRG.PRC
-- Backing up db FC Mission to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\FC_Mission.PRC
-- Backing up db FC MTL to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\FC_MTL.PRC
-- Backing up db FC Role to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\FC_Role.PRC
-- Backing up db FC Value to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\FC_Value.PRC
-- Backing up db FC PDTL to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\FC_PDTL.PRC
-- Backing up db Giraffe to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\Giraffe.PRC
-- Backing up db HardBall to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\HardBall.PRC
-- Backing up db keyboard to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\keyboard.PRC
-- Backing up db SubHunt to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\SubHunt.PRC
-- Backing up db MineHunt to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\MineHunt.PRC
-- Backing up db Puzzle to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\Puzzle.PRC
-- Backing up db AddressCitiesDB to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\AddressCitiesDB.PDB
-- Backing up db CitiesDB to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\CitiesDB.PDB
-- Backing up db AddressCompaniesDB to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\AddressCompaniesDB.PDB
-- Backing up db AddressCountriesDB to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\AddressCountriesDB.PDB
-- Backing up db NetSync to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\NetSync.PRC
-- Backing up db psysLaunchDB to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\psysLaunchDB.PDB
-- Backing up db Graffiti ShortCuts to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\Graffiti_ShortCuts___.PRC
-- Backing up db System MIDI Sounds to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\System_MIDI_Sounds.PDB
-- Backing up db Saved Preferences to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\Saved_Preferences.PRC
-- Backing up db AddressStatesDB to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\AddressStatesDB.PDB
-- Backing up db AddressTitlesDB to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\AddressTitlesDB.PDB
-- Backing up db VendorsDB to file C:\Program Files\Palm\A\Backup\VendorsDB.PDB
OK System
HotSync operation complete 02/01/01 22:23:34

For now, the Values, TaskList, Roles, Mission, MTL, Goals, DRE, and Compass apps are still on the Palm.

What does everyone suggest as replacements?

**If anyone has any suggestions or warnings, please advise ! **

Wish me luck.

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: OK let's jump (uninstall FC)
From: David McNish <dmcnish@charter.net>
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 15:57:00 -0500

This morning I installed the Palm desktop on a laptop running NT 4.0 fixpak 6.

So far so good. It sync'd without any issues.

The only install issue is our laptops are normally setup without Admin rights. As developers we have limited admin rights. I installed using my local admin id, and it works under that, but won't work under the normal signon id. I get...

Error: Invalid configuration. Terminating the Palm Desktop.

I'll advise if I get this figured out.

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: OK let's jump (uninstall FC)
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 16:22:00 -0500

Well actually even Palm Desktop requires the admin rights. Here is a trick...

Our system had our NT computers set for:
Network Admin (MIS),
Network User (USER me),
Local Admin (no network access but accessible by me)

And MIS just stood firm that if it took admin rights to install and use the program - you were out of luck...

Well,...
As a local admin, you have the rights to designate a user as having local admin rights...
gosh... that gives USER-you local admin rights and network access... Which is all you need. You don't need to be a network administrator to run the program...

(MIS folks can be so near sighted at times)

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: OK let's jump (uninstall FC)
From: David McNish <dmcnish@charter.net>
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 20:43:00 -0500

Thanks! I'll give that a try.