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Just thought the general public might like to see what goes on in the background of a WebBoard site.

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Subject: Photo
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:02:00 -0500

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While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

**Not associated with Franklin Covey**
FQ DayPlanner:'92 Ascend/FPS (4.0-6.1/7.1):'93 PPPro:'97 2MB/IR Upgrade '99
I can also be found hanging around the sites listed and hotlinked in my profile.
I retain the Copyright to all my posts and emails. Copyright Myths exposed. Attached file:
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Newsgroups: fcps.ManagersOnly
Subject: Forum Operation - for managers.
From: Admin FCPSForum <fcpsforum@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 21:21:00 -0500

Forum operation

The ManagersONLY conference is only visible to managers and moderators. This is where we:

1. Stash stuff.
2. Provide instructions like these.
3. Pass warnings about individual 'contributors'.
4. Pass general messages between moderators/selected individuals.
5. Communicate with Matt / Site Manager.

One reason it is needed is so that the /upload directory will retain the files and pictures that are uploaded. They will disappear when the message that transmitted it ages off the board. So we can stash the message that uploaded it here and it never ages off. Messages that upload Images used by personal profiles can also be stashed here. They just point the < img src= tag to ../upload/imagename

Inline image viewing is disabled for most conferences. It WILL get abused if left on in a general forum. The process for uploading images (to be able to link to keep them stored on the website and so that they can be used in profiles and in the conferences that have images enabled) is simple:
-They use the Submit conference to attach their picture to.
-We MOVE it to the ManagersONLY conference.
-They provide a link or image tag to ../upload/{filename}.
(for an example see Coe's Profile and View Source).

Tips and Tricks This one is a preference issue. The Ageless Conference has NNTP Disabled... if they want the tips, then visit here on line. It helps to sort of enforce copyright issues. It is a little more work to copy and distribute them from the forum than from NNTP. The discussion about the tips is open to NNTP... tease them to want to logon. Again, their submission is to the Submit Conference and we move it if we accept their post for Ageless to that one or to the appropriate conference if it is good information but not, solely in our opinion, worthy of Ageless standing.

Using was intended for us, but, I think I just made it moderated, so that they could submit for our review.

If I think of anything else, I'll add it.

Manager's caution... resist the temptation to take 'ownership' of the forum. It is a user's forum and we are just to guide.

It should be a little more volatile than the FC's own direct support forum. Realize that as long as FC does not shut that forum down, IT will get most of the traffic. This forum will, by that fact if it survives, be more negative and polarized. That is why rule #3 emphasizes KEEP IT IMPERSONAL... I myself have some loyalty to the product and will do a LOT more posting over there, after all, I want them to fix for free what I already paid for.

Coe

FCPS Admin volunteer
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Newsgroups: fcps.ManagersOnly
Subject: Yahoo! listing accepted
From: Complaints.com Manager <matthew.smith@complaints.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:29:00 -0500

Dear Business Express Client,

The site you submitted

http://www.fcproductsservices.com

with Business Express Order #408834 has been added to the
Yahoo! directory.

It will appear after our next update, which will probably occur
within the next 2-4 days. You can find your listing at that time by
looking through the "What's New" listings http://www.yahoo.com/new/
or by doing a keyword search.

Please note that you may see your site listed in the directory before
it appears in our searchable database.

If you have questions about the current placement of your site or
you want to request that Yahoo! reconsider the decision, please
email us within thirty days by replying to this message.

To request changes to your listing in the future, please use our
"Changing Your Yahoo! Listing" form located at
http://add.yahoo.com/fast/change/.

For more information about Yahoo!'s Business Express program,
please check the frequently asked questions (FAQ) located at
http://help.yahoo.com/help/bizex

Thank you for taking the time to submit your site. We rely on users
like yourself to make the Yahoo! directory complete and comprehensive.

Best wishes,

The Yahoo! Business Express Team

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Newsgroups: fcps.ManagersOnly
Subject: Yahoo! listing accepted
From: Complaints.com Manager <matthew.smith@complaints.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:48:00 -0500

Here is where the new Yahoo! listing is located.

As you can see, Yahoo! created a new category, "consumer opinion," under the Franklin Covey category, as a result of this listing (along with FranklinCoveySucks.com).

http://dir.yahoo.com/Business_and_Economy/Business_to_Business/Office_Supplies_and_Equipment/Calendars_and_Personal_Organizers/Franklin_Covey/

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Newsgroups: fcps.OpenForum
Subject: Yahoo! listing accepted
From: Anonymous
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:46:00 -0500

From MY manager

Here is where the new Yahoo! listing is located.

As you can see, Yahoo! created a new category, "consumer opinion," under the Franklin Covey category, as a result of this listing (along with...).

http://dir.yahoo.com/Business_and_Economy/Business_to_Business/Office_Supplies_and_Equipment/Calendars_and_Personal_Organizers/Franklin_Covey/

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Newsgroups: fcps.ManagersOnly
Subject: Matt, they have launched the attack!
From: Complaints.com Manager <matthew.smith@complaints.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 02:21:00 -0500

Coe. Thanks for our telephone conversation today. Please keep me posted on the FC lawyer's response to your letter, etc. I'll support you and this forum, and pay for legal representation concerning these matters. Thanks. Matt.
P.S. My wireless phone recorded your tel. number correctly.

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Newsgroups: fcps.ManagersOnly
Subject: Complaints Conference
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:05:00 -0500

Matt;

I am considering creating a complaints conference that would automatically email franklin covey tech support.

The way I would do it is to first create a "FCEMAIL" userid. Having control of said ID, I would then create a conference

"Email Franklin Covey Tech Support"

I would set the email address for the FCEMAIL id to be support@franklincovey.com which is in fact their address.

After posting an instructions post, I would then put the conference on their email notification listing. Every post to the conference would send an email to FC Tech Support.

How do you like it?

A couple of folks think that I am about to receive a gag order.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.ManagersOnly
Subject: Complaints Conference
From: Complaints.com Manager <matthew.smith@complaints.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 04:10:00 -0500

Coe.

That's a good idea.

It might even be considered this forum's obligation to current FC users, and especially users of this forum, to keep FC 'in the loop' about what's happening on this forum.

This new feature that you propose appears to be a good way to communicate with FC regarding this forum, under the current circumstances. Especially considering the recent restrictions that you (the head Admin of this forum) have been subjected to regarding your use of FC's own forums (forums which you previously felt comfortable using to communicate this type of content).

If FC perhaps interprets a complaint notification feature, from a wide group of users of its products and services, such as the idea that you propose, as not constructive in nature, but rather aggressive and counter-productive, that sounds like a risk that is necessary, and worth taking.

Communication between this forum and FC appears to be necessary to help provide FC users, and users of this forum, with the best possible information regarding the use of FC products and services.

Hopefully FC would respond to this new communication in a constructive and productive manner, such as users of its products services might expect regarding FC's effort to improve its products and services and best serve its customers.

Matt.

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Newsgroups: fcps.ManagersOnly
Subject: Complaints Conference
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 07:20:00 -0500

If I have time I will set it up tonight.

Also, I strongly suspect that the T&Cs that they emailed me, were for ME alone - Legal maneuvering. As you know, my reply was a demand to delete all my copyrighted content off their boards. If after a reasonable time they have not done so, I have a course of action in mind that may require your lawyer to send a second demand to honor my/our copyright.

It is possible their scheme may backfire.

I really NEED to know which ISP's are accessing the board as guests!!!

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.ManagersOnly
Subject: Complaints Conference
From: Complaints.com Manager <matthew.smith@complaints.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:29:00 -0500

I'm currently at a loss about the IP situation. I'll keep trying.

A 'reasonable amount of time' could be considered six months. How many years have you been using the FC boards?

Also, since your messages posted to the FC boards were posted by you personally (as opposed to FC posting your copyrighted material on their boards), would it really be FC's responsibility to remove the copyrighted content that belongs to you?

Matt

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Newsgroups: fcps.ManagersOnly
Subject: Complaints Conference
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:38:00 -0500

The majority of the post are on the ~1 board.

1) They have made it read only so I cannot delete them.
2) My logging on to their forum could be construed as 'agreeing' to the terms that they sent me. I have not logged on since last Friday.

So, No I cannot. A reasonable time for 'immediately' would be about Oct 8 2000, as far as I am concerned.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.ManagersOnly
Subject: Complaints Conference
From: Complaints.com Manager <matthew.smith@complaints.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:01:00 -0500

Ok, I understand.

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Newsgroups: fcps.ManagersOnly
Subject: OOPS Complaints Conference
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:27:00 -0500

Well, that didn't work.
They have an autoresponder set to say that they received the message.

The response gets posted...
Generating another email...
Generating another response....
Generating another email....

So, I had to moderate the conference.
Whenever you see the red check mark on a response--- do NOT click the checkmark, just delete the email response message.

Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.ManagersOnly
Subject: Password vulnerability
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:58:00 -0500

If you have not been keeping up with O'Reilly, there is a password hole in all versions of WebBoard. The new version (4.2) that has just been posted as a free upgrade needs to be installed here. (I confirmed that I can 'steal' everyone's password with this version.)

We need it, particularly if I start authorizing other moderators.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.ManagersOnly
Subject: Password vulnerability
From: Complaints.com Manager <matthew.smith@complaints.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:00:00 -0500

Right. I'll try to get it done in 4-6 weeks.

Matt

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Newsgroups: fcps.ManagersOnly
Subject: Re-RE-upload of The Knack
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 22:17:00 -0500

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While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

**Not associated with Franklin Covey**
FQ DayPlanner:'92 Ascend/FPS (4.0-6.1/7.3(3/8)):'93
PPPro:'97 2MB/IR Upgrade '99, Palm IIIc:'00 FPO (1.1-1.4):'00 DayTracker/FPC:'00
I can also be found hanging around the sites listed and hotlinked in my profile.
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