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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Franklin Planner to Outlook
From: Erin Tomlinson <etomlinson@rjfs.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:27:00 -0500

I just ordered a new Palm and the Outlook Program. How do I successfully transition from Franklin Planner to Outlook?

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Franklin Planner to Outlook
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 09:07:00 -0500

On 4/21/00 10:27:00 AM, Erin Tomlinson wrote:
>I just ordered a new Palm and
>the Outlook Program. How do I
>successfully transition from
>Franklin Planner to Outlook?

Which Franklin Planner are you now using, although the assumption is either the FPS stand-alone product or the Online (DayTracker) version?

Which Palm device did you order?

There is a version of Franklin Planner for MicroSoft Outlook, that sets 'on top of' and integrates to Outlook 98 or Outlook 2K.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

**Not associated with Franklin Covey**
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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: 1.4 insights
From: Anonymous
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 22:51:00 -0500

I had a strange dream last night and the following just popped into my head:

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The beta 1.4 #2 is a significant improvement, but I could not call it big, since WinCE is a foreign language.

The PDTL navigation goes a long way to make the other shortcomings livable.

Still needs navigation and the ability to show any day in the WMM Today screen.

Some data loss issues showed up and no clean way to avoid them.

Address/Phone and Contacts seem to have a real problem in reliably working together without creating duplicates, even when you only edited a record on the computer or created a new record on the Palm.

Some strange and inconsistent behavior still exists in dealing with recurring tasks.

Another item on the plus side is that duplicates have been a minor issue, especially considering the convoluted multiple computer arrangement I use.

Understand that new features in the beta are not assured of making it to the release version.

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Does anyone know what this means?

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: 1.4 insights
From: Anonymous
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 20:09:00 -0500

It could mean that A.T. (Axiom Technologies) never did a development for FPS or FPO, that modules were cut and pasted together without going through a full compatibility testing or confirmation. It may mean that FC products to A.T. are not their main bread and butter, but rather an afterthought, Oh, yeah, we have a couple of minutes to spare today, let's dust off the FC code - Thanks for your suggestion, and we'll forward it to the appropriate department for consideration.

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: 1.4 insights
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:55:00 -0500

Axiom Technologies, now, KnowledgeTrack Professional Services Group, was the author of Ascend 97 for Franklin Quest.

They did FPS and FPO under contract to Franklin Covey.

They created a lot of extensions to the original A97 product, some of which A97 user's have been screaming for, however

1) those extensions never made it to A97/FPS.
2) no cooperation agreements for third party support (database report generators, Palm unDUPE support, agenda support, Teal Glance....) could be entered into without everyone agreeing, and of course not everyone did.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO 1.4 HSM Installation Deletes conduits!
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:53:00 -0500

I simply cannot believe that after KNOWING at least as early as July 01, 2000 that their HSM installation was flawed they released it so that it deletes all non-FC/Outlook conduits when it installs an upgrade.

MobileLink/Avant-go
PalmPix
etc.

conduits all wiped out!

UNFORGIVEABLE!

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO 1.4 HSM Installation Deletes conduits!
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:03:00 -0500

On 8/14/00 6:53:00 PM, Coe CWCJr wrote:
>I simply cannot believe that
>after KNOWING at least as
>early as July 01, 2000 that
>their HSM installation was
>flawed they released it so
>that it deletes all
>non-FC/Outlook conduits when
>it installs an upgrade.
>
>MobileLink/Avant-go
>PalmPix
>etc.
>
>conduits all wiped out!
>
>UNFORGIVEABLE!
>
>While just one opinion among
>many, I hope this information
>was helpful...
>Coe

Not only that, but, it resets the sync range so watchout! DRE data could be lost. Check your sync range settings BEFORE your first HotSync!

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO 1.4 -- need recommendations
From: Heather Canady <cyberunica@mail.com>
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 20:24:00 -0500

I am currently using FPO 1.3 for synchronizing my contacts with Outlook. (This is one of the few things I have not switched back to paper.) The configuration I have set up is currently providing the features that I need to sync only the contacts.

Are there any improvements/fixes in version 1.4 (affecting the Contacts sync) that are worth risking messing up a working configuration?

Thanks,

Heather M. Canady

2000: Paper Planner
1999: FPS, FPO, PPPro
1997: Paper Planner

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO 1.4 -- need recommendations
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 05:46:00 -0500

On 9/4/00 8:24:00 PM, Heather Canady wrote:
>I am currently using FPO 1.3
>for synchronizing my contacts
>with Outlook. (This is one of
>the few things I have not
>switched back to paper.) The
>configuration I have set up is
>currently providing the
>features that I need to sync
>only the contacts.
>
>Are there any
>improvements/fixes in version
>1.4 (affecting the Contacts
>sync) that are worth risking
>messing up a working
>configuration?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Heather M. Canady
>
>2000: Paper Planner
>1999: FPS, FPO, PPPro
>1997: Paper Planner
>

Why would you use FPO to sync your contacts? There are many other options, including the native Palm DeskTop, that are much more flexible and will capture the custom fields?

Are you stuck using Outlook at work?
How is your Mail handled?
How are you handling appointments and Tasks, since these conduits are lumped into a single conduit for FPO.

re: 1.3 v 1.4 - none that I am aware of.

Welcome, Heather.... Wow, I note that you seem to have moved closer to the place I visit. One of these days I may try to catch you when I am down that way...

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO 1.4 -- need recommendations
From: Heather Canady <cyberunica@mail.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 21:49:00 -0500

On 9/5/00 5:46:00 AM, Coe CWCJr wrote:
>Why would you use FPO to sync your
>contacts? There are many other options,
>including the native Palm DeskTop, that
>are much more flexible and will capture
>the custom fields?

Already spent money on it.

>How are you handling appointments and
>Tasks, since these conduits are lumped
>into a single conduit for FPO.

Appointments and Tasks are a paper planner item. I have a PowerPro binder, which I have been happy with so far.

Heather M. Canady

2000: Paper Planner
1999: FPS, FPO, PPPro
1997: Paper Planner

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO 1.4 -- need recommendations
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 00:30:00 -0500

;-)

As I said, no improvement that I have noted.
Severe CAUTION when entering new numbers on the Planner. At least the beta would go into a continual duping mode if you entered the number on the palm in the format of:
aaa nnn-nnnn

It seemed to be an outlook related issue.
It wants to see, precisely:
(aaa) nnn-nnnn

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO 1.4 -- need recommendations
From: Heather Canady <cyberunica@mail.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 17:08:00 -0500

So what does it do with extensions? Or has that feature been removed?

Thanks,
Heather
Heather M. Canady

2000: Paper Planner
1999: FPS, FPO, PPPro
1997: Paper Planner

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO 1.4 -- need recommendations
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 20:00:00 -0500

On 9/6/00 5:08:00 PM, Heather Canady wrote:
>So what does it do with
>extensions? Or has that
>feature been removed?
>
>Thanks,
>Heather
>Heather M. Canady
>
>2000: Paper Planner
>1999: FPS, FPO, PPPro
>1997: Paper Planner
>

I did not try it. Outlook does not have the recovery capabilities that FPS does. I was not going to risk massive duplication, since I already knew it had a glitch.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Changing the Outlook Tasks view
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:29:00 -0500

From:
Naugh Smith
Here's a tip I've been meaning to post, because I figured I'm not the
only one with the issue. That is, I hate how FC has "restricted" the
forms, and locked out certain features that are strong points of
Outlook.

Using Outlook views and settings, here's how I created my own
customizable versions of the PDTL, MTL. I hardly use the toolbar
buttons to access FC's crappy version.

Start out with in the Outlook's Task folder, in any view (I used Simple
View).
1. Click on View, Define Views ...
2. Copy the Current, name it as PDTL
3. Customize the view as to include the following:
- Fields: FCStatus, Complete, FCRank, Start Date, Subject, Status,
Due Date, Priority, Notes, Icon. (you'll want to tweak it to your liking)
- Group By: Categories (and any other groups you like)
- Sort: FCRank
- Filter: Advanced: Complete Equals No.
4. Repeat the steps for the MTL, with the following modifications:
- Filter: Advanced: Start Date Not Exist.

Basically, using Outlook's Views features, you can create your own
versions of PDTL, and MTL that looks EXACTLY the way you want it
to; sort it any way; include whatever fields (columns) in any order;
and best of all: allows you to enter dates using phrases like "today",
"next monday", "tomorrow", "two days from now".

I've also used it troubleshoot numerous issues with duplicate tasks,
and resolve all the funky stuff that FC didn't notice.

Hope others try it; it's saved me quite a lot of headaches and
troubleshooting time.

Naugh

Reposted with permission.

Mind if I post this on the UNofficial board?

...
Coe

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From:
Naugh Smith
Date:
Monday, September 18, 2000 01:11 PM

No, I don't mind; but only if you tell me what the unofficial board is.
*grin*

Is it another board for messages on how others are making better use
of their Palm and FC products? I'd love to read more threads on stuff
like that.

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Changing the Calendar Taskpad view
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:32:00 -0500

From Naugh Smith:

Again (see also "Task List" thread), it's a matter of modifying the
Taskpad's views to include FC's extra fields, such as FCStatus,
FCRank, etc.

1) Once in Calendar View (with Taskpad shown), move the mouse
pointer to a column, and right click to bring up extended menus.
2) Click Customize View . . .
3) Modify columns to include all of FC's fields (FCStatus, FCRank,
FC....)
4) Sort by FCRank, Group by Categories (or whatever you choose).

Basically you'll have the FC PDTL, but without the nice Icons to tell
you if it's "In Process", "Forwarded" etc. You'll get used to what the
numbers from 0-5 means (until I figure out a way to display the icons,
:).

This version of the PDTL is much nicer because you can enter word
phrases for the "Start Date" and "Due Date" (I include both fields and
modify Start Date).

Another nicer thing is that if you Group by Start Dates (as I have
done in my modified Task List), you'll be able to "forward" items by
simply dragging and dropping the task into that date.

Hope that helps.

Naugh

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Possible Recurring Task workaround
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:24:00 -0500

Remember --- this information is NOT to be posted on the other board, but you're welcome to reference it and send anyone interested, here. [grin]

If you use Naugh Smith's taskpad view changes in the Calendar View, you get a way to bypass the repeating task problem of FPO by using a repeating appointment.

After implementing his changes, set up your taskpad view to Group by date descending. Now today's items will be at the top in a 'group' sub-window.

Schedule your task as a recurring APPOINTMENT.

Now on those days when you are doing your morning planning, do your normal first round. Then go to the calendar view and DRAG the appointment into today's Taskpad subsection. You should get a popup that says "change due date to .......". Then drop it.

Now select the PDTL icon, it will popup a message that XYZ is due today, do you want to move it to the PDTL. Say yes.

It will create a single event PDTL item that sync's normally to the Palm and has a note attached that shows the recurring schedule for the 'task/appointment'. Your calendar will show the recurring appointment. (I set my recurring task 'appointments' for my COB time of day.)
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I know, not perfect, but it is better than fighting the duplicates or just using appointments to track recurring tasks.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

**Not associated with Franklin Covey**
FQ DayPlanner:'92 Ascend/FPS (4.0-6.1/7.3(3/8)):'93
PPPro:'97 2MB/IR Upgrade '99, Palm IIIc:'00 FPO (1.1-1.4):'00 DayTracker/FPC:'00
I can also be found hanging around the sites listed and hotlinked in my profile.
I retain the Copyright to all my posts and emails. Copyright Myths exposed.

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Alternative to FPO using Datebk4
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 00:27:00 -0500

FYI: Copied from the Development and Review Conference (which is restricted.)

I am experimenting with a fairly effective work around on the computer using FPO and custom fields. Datebk4 offers some very interesting extensions (e.g., converting a todo to Floating event that automatically forwards each day as untimed events)

I created an A1, A2... FCRank custom field in Outlook 2K and use it for all tasking.

By setting up the view to Group by Due Date and sort by FCRank, I get what I consider to be an even better PDTL view than PDTL!

Undated tasks (gee = MTL) sort to the bottom.

Overdue tasks show in red, etc.

Granted if you do too much long range planning of tasks, this can be distracting since the future tasks sort to the top. But I would bet that I could define a custom form/filter that overcomes that.

The real problem is playing the game on the Palm to get the ToDo display in Datebk4 to show them in the FCRank order. If I could add a custom field to the Palm ToDo (as Palm did with Address/Phone) and link it to FCRank, then use Datebk4 to sort by the custom field.... I would have it!

As for the other FPx features, I have found the flexibility in outlook 2k to duplicate most of what I used and the notes/dre/journal hotsinking using Chappura/Pocket Mirror and Datebk 4 is MUCH MUCH MUCH more intuative and stable!!! (Undupe does not cause information linking errors, either! - but then I have had very little need to use it.)

A note of interest.
If you save a copy of the PST files, uninstall FPO, then restore the saved PSTs....(you have to be careful to rebuild the same directory structure to reinstall the WMM.PST file)...
All the fields that FPO added are still there, as User Defined Fields. You just have to manually fill them in.

I do not like the work-around of putting the ABC in the text and have not focused in on a single method using icons, floats, etc to sort the tasks on the Palm. Otherwise the current method is much more efficient than fighting FPO.

Need that Palm ToDo linked field to a user defined field in Outlook (FCRank) and I would be thrilled with the Outlook/Datebk4 combination and never look back.

BTW Terry O: Outlook's import export capability gives you the ability to get at all the individual pieces of data from the PST file, even though you cannot directly edit it like you can in FPS's mdb. Automating (macros?) this would exceed even FPS's data manipulation capability.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Alternative to FPO using Datebk4
From: Jay Downing <bikeman@efortress.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 14:41:00 -0500

I don't know how pocket mirror syncs priorities with Outlook and DateBk4 but with Desktop to Go

Palm Priority 1=Outlook High=FPO A
Palm Priority 3=Outlook Normal=FPO B
Palm Priority 5=Outlook Low=FPO C

Keeping this in mind if you prepend the FP rank to the Task description, and set up Outlook to group by date and sort by subject, Your PDTL will sort by FP rank in DateBk4 and Outlook.

HTH

Jay Downing

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Synchronization FP Outlook with MS Outlook
From: Marek Piechocki <mpiechocki@lpp.com.pl>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 07:05:00 -0500

Hi,
I am Marek from Poland and I am new user of FC for Outlook but I do not know

a) how to present on my palm the importance which is in outlook ( low, normal, high )- does this exist in Palm and in PDTL

b) how to show the importance and priority( A1,B3 etc )from palm or PDTL on desk top to Outlook

c)whether it is correct when I have the task in Outlook which is due in 5 days and the starting day is tomorrow it shows in my palm only on the starting day and in MS Outlook as the end day. Can I change something that it will show in both Palm and MS Outlook as the end day

This are many questions at the beginning but I hope that anyone of you can help me

Marek

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Synchronization FP Outlook with MS Outlook
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:21:00 -0500

On 11/19/00 7:05:00 AM, Marek Piechocki wrote:
>
>Hi,
>I am Marek from Poland and I
>am new user of FC for Outlook
>but I do not know
>
>a) how to present on my palm
>the importance which is in
>outlook ( low, normal, high )-
>does this exist in Palm and in
>PDTL
>
>b) how to show the importance
>and priority( A1,B3 etc )from
>palm or PDTL on desk top to
>Outlook
>
>c)whether it is correct when I
>have the task in Outlook which
>is due in 5 days and the
>starting day is tomorrow it
>shows in my palm only on the
>starting day and in MS Outlook
>as the end day. Can I change
>something that it will show in
>both Palm and MS Outlook as
>the end day
>
>This are many questions at the
>beginning but I hope that
>anyone of you can help me
>
>Marek

http://us.comments.com/%7Efcproductsservices/read?1150,1431

http://us.comments.com/%7Efcproductsservices/read?1149,1431

The above links will tell you how to modify your task viewing to add the FCRank field using Field Chooser. This will allow you to set and view your PDTL priorities in outlook using the standard TASK views rather than using PDTL. By carefully setting your display and archiving options and selecting to group by Due Date, you actually end up with a better view than PDTL creates.

(Note; if you ever get tired of the NOTES corruption of FPO and the PDTL's improper handling of Recurring Tasks, you can save a copy of your outlook [user].pst and wmm.pst files, uninstall FPO, then Reload the Palm Desktop selecting to sync to Outlook (it will load Chapura's Pocket Mirror) then restore the saved .pst files and the user fields will still be there! They won't sync to the Palm, though -- until someone writes a new palm conduit [grin])

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Synchronization FP Outlook with MS Outlook
From: Marek Piechocki <mpiechocki@lpp.com.pl>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 04:01:00 -0500

Hello Coe,

Thank you very much for prompt answer on my above mentioned problems and sorry for so late replay but I am still trying to fully start my FPO which in some parts does not work.

The links you suggested in your mail I saw earlier and I was thinking about them but I have some doubts and I do not know how to implement your suggestions. Pls let me present them

· I am putting into my Palm all data’s in PDTL but I am using the To do list in desktop-MS Outlook which is very nice composed and ease manageable into Calendar view. In this way I can not see the ( A1 etc) nor the priory 1,2,3,4,5.When I put any data’s into To do list into Palm probably does not go through to desktop because of lack of synchronization. This is only my guessing .

· I also do not understand how do you get in the To do list into MS Oulook priorities 1,2,3,4,5 which are into Palm because MS Outlook have only low, normal and high priorities.

At the end I must say that I will be very happy if someone will help me in this matter because I also think that your suggestion seams to be better then FPO original solution of PDTL . I also would prefer the 1,2,3… with so many other possibilities then A1,B1 with so many disadvantages.

Marek

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Synchronization FP Outlook with MS Outlook
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:40:00 -0500

does this help?

http://us.comments.com/read?1344,1431

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Synchronization FP Outlook with MS Outlook
From: Marek Piechocki <mpiechocki@lpp.com.pl>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 04:09:00 -0500

Hello Coe,

This is Marek again.
I read careful all your suggestions and I want to ask for one. Should I uninstall all FC for Outlook to run the advice you made ??

Marek

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Synchronization FP Outlook with MS Outlook
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:59:00 -0500

On 12/15/00 4:09:00 AM, Marek Piechocki wrote:
>Hello Coe,
>
>This is Marek again.
>I read careful all your
>suggestions and I want to ask
>for one. Should I uninstall
>all FC for Outlook to run the
>advice you made ??
>
>Marek

There are LOTS of warnings and cautions to following this GENERAL sequence and it should not be attempted without adequate backups and knowing how to restore them..
To emulate what I did, you save your current copy of WMM.PST and [userid].PST to a different directory.

You uninstall FPO and uninstall their Palm Support.

You Install Chappura Pocket mirror from the Palm CD (3.3 os and Up, I think) selecting to sync to Outlook.

I do not recall the sequence I used, whether I HotSynced first or copied files first.

In any case I opened and used Outlook, then closed it. I copied the old version [userid].pst over the current copy.
I copied the old backup of wmm.pst into the same location as the [userid].pst then started outlook and 'opened' the wmm.pst. All the old stuff was still there.

I deleted the FC apps that I did not want to retain off of the Palm. Installed Datebk4, and applied mr smith's tips.

That is roughly equalivalent. In actuallity, my IS department moved and established my O2K setup and email service (exchange) onto a new computer. Then I installed the Palm & Chappura s/w and copied my user and WMM.pst files directly over the new ones he established in the /windows directory.

All the old FC information is still accessible, it just does not sync to the Palm.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Is it worth it?
From: Andre Mueninghoff <andre.mueninghoff@ams.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:33:00 -0500

Coe, Terry, others,

I need some advice. I'm having sync problems with FPO v1.4 and OL2000, first with goals, now with the datebook. FC recommends a complete wipe and reinstall of Office2000. I've done that already, and it didn't work. Maybe I wasn't thorough.

Is trying again worth it????

I'm limping along now with BackupBuddy. Should I attempt the reinstall? wait for FC 2.x? or scrap FC?

Here's my situation...I really like a categorized MTL, and the bounce between the PDTL and MTL. I use Datebook4; can't recommend it enough. The WMM apps, however, I actually could duplicate with Palm Memos or outliner apps, or maybe the newly posted GoalKeeper app, (haven't looked at it yet).

I'm wondering if I should just use Datebk4 with the Palm ToDo app, and implement an "MTL" by tagging all MTL items with ToDo priority 5, and "promoting" them when I plan my day.

On a related topic, apart from the new menus and security masking, the new OS3.5 upgrade seems to offer merely the functionality I already have with Datebk4 and Address+. Am I missing something important? I sync by IR just fine now.

Cool unofficial board. Kudos! My first time...I haven't been aware of it.

Enjoy,

Andre Mueninghoff
Win98, OL2000, Palm IIIx, OS 3.3

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Is it worth it?
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:31:00 -0500

On 11/29/00 7:33:00 PM, Andre Mueninghoff wrote:
>Coe, Terry, others,
>
>I need some advice. I'm having
>sync problems with FPO v1.4
>and OL2000, first with goals,
>now with the datebook. FC
>recommends a complete wipe and
>reinstall of Office2000. I've
>done that already, and it
>didn't work. Maybe I wasn't
>thorough.
>
>Is trying again worth it????
>
>I'm limping along now with
>BackupBuddy. Should I attempt
>the reinstall? wait for FC
>2.x? or scrap FC?
>
>Here's my situation...I really
>like a categorized MTL, and
>the bounce between the PDTL
>and MTL. I use Datebook4;
>can't recommend it enough. The
>WMM apps, however, I actually
>could duplicate with Palm
>Memos or outliner apps, or
>maybe the newly posted
>GoalKeeper app, (haven't
>looked at it yet).
>
>I'm wondering if I should just
>use Datebk4 with the Palm ToDo
>app, and implement an "MTL" by
>tagging all MTL items with
>ToDo priority 5, and
>"promoting" them when I plan
>my day.
>
>On a related topic, apart from
>the new menus and security
>masking, the new OS3.5 upgrade
>seems to offer merely the
>functionality I already have
>with Datebk4 and Address+. Am
>I missing something important?
>I sync by IR just fine now.
>
>Cool unofficial board. Kudos!
>My first time...I haven't been
>aware of it.
>
>Enjoy,
>
>Andre Mueninghoff
>Win98, OL2000, Palm IIIx, OS
>3.3

Thanks Andy;

I use the Outlook tip by Naugh Smith http://us.comments.com/read?1150,1431 that modifies the view of the tasks in TaskPad in the Calendar view. For my "PDTL" view: I group by date due (inverted sort - future at the top), include a PDTL rank (A1, A2, etc) user defined field, and sort by rank.

A task that does not have a date due sorts to the bottom. (Ah Huh... MTL).

A task that goes overdue, turns red (which helps give you a sense of where 'today' is).

When all tasks for a given due date are completed, I collapse the date.

Working with DateBK4, I currently use sort by priority (Outlook High=1, normal=3, low=5). I have thought about using the Palm category (which using the Chapura option I keep separate from the Outlook Category) to set A, B, C but have not settled on a method.

I stopped using FPO and FPS, although FPS is still loaded on my home machine which syncs to the PPProUpgraded. My work machine just uses Outlook with my Palm IIIc. I am not satisfied with my current arrangement, but, I like it better than fighting with FPO/S bugs. BTW: My new work machine is a portable that 'docks' so I do not use my 'home' machine for daily planning. Just the portable and the IIIc.

Coe

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: Is it worth it?
From: Andre Mueninghoff <andre.mueninghoff@ams.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:56:00 -0500

Coe,

Thanks much for the reply. I'll give the technique you mention a try.

Enjoy,
Andre

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Newsgroups: fcps.PalmOS
Subject: New TaskList FPO Question
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 07:49:00 -0500

Anyone still using FPO 1.4 with the new Palm TaskList application;

Does it still have the Recurring Task corruption problem?

(Or is this ANOTHER case of adding bells and whistles - color and navigation - without fixing underlying program deficiencies?)

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO Alternatives?
From: Jerry Crumley <phantom4@stlnet.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:31:00 -0500

Distinguished Conference Members:

While I am still using FPO on a daily basis, I am frustrated enough to begin actively looking for workable alternatives. I have used this forum to point me in a couple of directions, but I have a few questions that I hope you may be able to help me with before I start down another path.

What has been the experience with Chapura's Pocket Mirror, either the Standard or Professional versions? What does it handle better than FPO? What does FPO do better? Any bugs or issues that may present a problem? How effective and helpful is their support?

Any experience with Pocket Journal? Will it coexist with FPO (or other solutions, for that matter)?

What has been the experience with Pimlico's DateBk4? (I've seen several references from Coe, but I'd like to hear from others as well) What does it handle better than FPO? What does FPO do better? Any bugs or issues that may present a problem? How effective and helpful is their support?

Any other solutions that I should consider?

I like several aspects of FPO. Long Range Goals to create tasks is helpful, but I can probably find another method to handle my personal needs for that. Mission Statement, Roles and Sharpen the Saw are all good, but again, I can figure another method if need be. Weekly Compass is unusable (as it doesn't sync to the Palm), so I have never used it. Any known alternatives to these functions?

I run a small consulting business that has a staff linked with a Windows peer-to-peer network in the office, and I'd like to utilize Outlook for my staff as well as the Palm for my personal use. I'm interested in any effective alternatives that will make me and my staff more effective.

In the interim, I am holding out a glimmer of hope that FC will indeed update FPO (and, for that matter, FPS and FPC) to resolve current issues, and I'll continue to use FPO until a viable alternative is found. I guess I'm a little loathe to exchange the "Devil I know" for the "Devil I don't".

Thanks in advance for your input.

Jerry Crumley.

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO Alternatives?
From: Joel Young <youngjm@mediaone.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:34:00 -0500

Jerry,

You ask a lot. I would sugest checking out Chapura.com for information about PocketMirror. I use the Standard version but will upgrade to the pro version when my office changes from Groupwise to Outlook. Chapura's site is very straight forward and they spell out their limitations with OL. BTW, their limitation are nothing relative to FPO. Also, their FAQ's do a good job describing how to work through different issues with OL and PocketMirror. A great conduit!

PocketJournal: I tried it once before FPO and thought it was pretty good. You can download a demo for 30 days. I never had any problems with it and you can use more than just the note category for the entries.

Datebk4: Try the demo for 45 days and put your todo's in the palm todo app. This is an excellent program and if you are having problems with the current version, the author will usually post a pre-release version that lists what has been fixed and what is still broke. Current version if 4.0d. There is no pre-release version available.

In general, both software packages outline what does and does not work. (Refreshing to know the limitations going into a products use.) I can't think of an instance where pocketmirror and Datebk4 have let me down.

Good Luck

Palm IIIx w/8mb upgrade 5/1999-2/2001
Palm IIIc 2/2001 - SIU

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO Alternatives?
From: Joel Young <youngjm@mediaone.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:38:00 -0500

One last item. PocketMirror and Datebk4 will coexist with FPO on the desktop. The PocketMirror conduit will replace FPO's conduits. Therefore, the FC Palm apps will not sync to the desktop.

If you decide to uninstall PocketMirror and go back to FPO for the Palm, you need to do some special steps to uninstall PocketMirror and clean-up the registry and OL. The instructions are in the forums at FC. They may have buried the process in their FAQ's?

Palm IIIx w/8mb upgrade 5/1999-2/2001
Palm IIIc 2/2001 - SIU

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO Alternatives?
From: Jerry Crumley <phantom4@stlnet.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:07:00 -0500

Joel:

Thanks for the quick response. I've looked at both Chapura's and Pimlico's web sites, and I posted here to see if there was anything else I should be aware of before attempting any tests.

I am already using a trial version of Pocket Journal, running it along with the FC apps on my Palm (no conflicts thus far).

Joel, do I understand correctly that you are using BOTH Pocket Mirror AND DateBk4? Or do you prefer one over the other?

Can I also infer that, if I continue to use FPO on my PC, I can still use Goals to create Tasks & Appointments along with either Pocket Mirror or DateBk4 (although the Goals will not sync to the Palm)?

You've been a big help already. Thanks again.

Jerry

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO Alternatives?
From: Joel Young <youngjm@mediaone.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:18:00 -0500

On 3/13/01 2:07:00 PM, Jerry Crumley wrote:
>Joel:
>
>Thanks for the quick response.
>I've looked at both Chapura's
>and Pimlico's web sites, and I
>posted here to see if there
>was anything else I should be
>aware of before attempting any
>tests.
>
>I am already using a trial
>version of Pocket Journal,
>running it along with the FC
>apps on my Palm (no conflicts
>thus far).
>
>Joel, do I understand
>correctly that you are using
>BOTH Pocket Mirror AND
>DateBk4? Or do you prefer one
>over the other?

I use both PocketMirror and DateBk4. DateBk4 runs on my palm and uses the standard palm datebook database. PocketMirror is the Conduit to sync the datebook database to OL.

>
>Can I also infer that, if I
>continue to use FPO on my PC,
>I can still use Goals to
>create Tasks & Appointments
>along with either Pocket
>Mirror or DateBk4 (although
>the Goals will not sync to the
>Palm)?
>
Sounds right. I don't know for sure since I completely dumped FPO in hopes of future fix that would address all the issues with the current versions.

>You've been a big help
>already. Thanks again.
>
>Jerry

Palm IIIx w/8mb upgrade 5/1999-2/2001
Palm IIIc 2/2001 - SIU

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO Alternatives?
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:48:00 -0500

Well, I use Outlook 2k with DateBk4.

As I noted, elsewhere. I saved my WMM.PST and my [user].pst files just before uninstalling FPO 1.4.

I then completely uninstalled FPO and Palm support and then Installed the IIIc support telling it to sync to Outlook. It loaded Chapura for the sync to the Palm.

If I have not posted it elsewhere, I have forgotten the exact sequence of steps (CRS), but, I then copied the saved [user].pst file over the version from after the uninstall of FPO, and recreated the identical path to wmm.pst and restored that saved file. Upon opening OL, all the information and user field definitions were still there, but, the forms were OL standard. All I had to do was to modify the taskpad and task forms to add the FC user defined fields. All the information was still in tact.

The First HotSync, however, was just exactly what you expect - 100% duplication. BUT! for non-FPS based usage, UnDupe works perfectly with no residual data loss.

So... there you have my current configuration.

A1, A2, .... Task sorting is on the computer using a user defined field of ... er... ah ... "FC Rank", but, not on the Palm. Mike S. I think uses categories to simulate it, but, I wanted to retain category usage and sacrificed the Palm's ranking order flexibility. I just get 1, 3, or 5 on the Palm ToDos.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO Alternatives?
From: Jerry Crumley <phantom4@stlnet.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:48:00 -0500

Coe:

Thanks for the response. I've read your notes in other areas (how I got the idea to look at DateBk4 in the first place). I still have a couple of questions that you may be able to enlighten me on:

On 3/13/01 9:48:00 PM, Coe CWCJr wrote:
>Well, I use Outlook 2k with
>DateBk4.
>
>As I noted, elsewhere. I
>saved my WMM.PST and my
>[user].pst files just before
>uninstalling FPO 1.4.
>

I already do this on a regular basis; been stung by messy lock-ups and Outlook "Repairs" in the past, both from FPO and FPC.

>I then completely uninstalled
>FPO and Palm support and then
>Installed the IIIc support
>telling it to sync to Outlook.
>It loaded Chapura for the sync
>to the Palm.
>

I bought my IIIx at an FC store, so the only apps it came with were the FC apps; no Palm Desktop or any Chapura apps. Do you know where I can get these or do I have to purchase from Chapura?

>If I have not posted it
>elsewhere, I have forgotten
>the exact sequence of steps
>(CRS), but, I then copied the
>saved [user].pst file over the
>version from after the
>uninstall of FPO, and
>recreated the identical path
>to wmm.pst and restored that
>saved file.

If I had a nickel for every time I've had to do this already........

BTW, I like what I've read about Pocket Mirror 3.0 Professional, especially relating to the Address Book function (which address to sync, etc.). Can you tell me what DateBk4 offers over Pocket Mirror Pro? (It would appear that the price tag for Pocket Journal, Pocket Mirror Pro, and DateBk4 will exceed the $$$ spent on FPO, although not by much, and I don't want to spend any unnecessary $$$). And are there any issues in working with Outlook that I should be aware of (delegating, shared folders on a network, etc.)?

>While just one opinion among
>many, I hope this information
>was helpful...
>Coe
>

Of course, as always!

>
>**Not associated with Franklin
>Covey**
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>(4.0-6.1/7.3(3/8)):'93
>PPPro:'97 2MB/IR Upgrade '99,
>Palm IIIc:'00 FPO
>(1.1-1.4):'00
>DayTracker/FPC:'00
>I can also be found hanging
>around the sites listed and
>hotlinked in my profile.
>I retain the Copyright to all
>my posts and emails.
>Copyright Myths exposed.

Thanks again.

Jerry

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO Alternatives?
From: Joel Young <youngjm@mediaone.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:06:00 -0500

On 3/14/01 10:48:00 AM, Jerry Crumley wrote:
>
>Can you
>tell me what DateBk4 offers over Pocket
>Mirror Pro?

Jerry,

DateBk4 and PocketMirror are different products and have different functions. DateBK4 is a palm app that accesses the different palm built in databases and provides a consolidated and differing view of the datebook, todo, phonebook and memo apps. PocketMirror is a conduit to get the information between the Palm and Outlook. I use both as their is no overlap in functionality.

In regards to the palm desktop, Palm.com use to have palm desktop 3.1 available for download and you could then choose to install support for pocketmirror. You may be able to order the original IIIx disk from palm that shipped with non FC units. They have a new parts section to order from. But, if you are considering PM Pro, you don't need anything from palm other than Palm Desktop 4.0 to get the HS Manager. PM Pro can be ordered as a full install and not an upgrade to the version Palm shipped on their disks.

Other options are to borrow a friends palm disk or call FC and ask them for the IIIx disk since their software does not work. An FC store gave me my copy of the IIIx disk a few years ago.

Palm IIIx w/8mb upgrade 5/1999-2/2001
Palm IIIc 2/2001 - SIU

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO Alternatives?
From: Admin FCPSForum <fcpsforum@juno.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:28:00 -0500

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO won't install at all
From: Adam Shellaque <adam64@hushmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 04:05:00 -0500

Version 1.4 CD won't install and keeps giving an MSo9 error message.

I followed the instructions on the FC / MS website link and it made no difference. All other aspects of my system work fine.

I've got Windows ME and Office 2000 on the system with a personal firewall and PC cillan virus protection in the task bar.

Has anyone else experienced this and can offer a solution or a relevant website I check out?

Thanks

Adam

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO won't install at all
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:44:00 -0500

On 3/29/01 4:05:00 AM, Adam Shellaque wrote:
>Version 1.4 CD won't install
>and keeps giving an MSo9 error
>message.
>
>I followed the instructions on
>the FC / MS website link and
>it made no difference. All
>other aspects of my system
>work fine.
>
>I've got Windows ME and Office
>2000 on the system with a
>personal firewall and PC
>cillan virus protection in the
>task bar.
>
>Has anyone else experienced
>this and can offer a solution
>or a relevant website I check
>out?
>
>Thanks
>
>Adam

If you have ever had FPS or FPO installed before, make sure that the 'circle' icon is not on the taskbar for WMM. Right click and close it if it is.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO Death
From: Kevin Maxey <ksmax@email.msn.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:53:00 -0500

I am beginning to think that it is time to call for a wake for FPO.

Signs of a lack of life:
- no promised update(s)
- no talk of updates or fixes
- no support for new version of Outlook
- Webboard down to 2-3 messages most days
- No more enthusiasm on the board about how FC principles are helping them to manage their lives
- No communication that isn't absolutely necessary from FC.

Time to start getting the pipers together - the question I have is:
Will it be a funeral for FPO, FPS or just for FC?

Kevin

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Newsgroups: fcps.FPO
Subject: FPO Death
From: Wayne Mery <wsm0@lehigh.edu>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 05:11:00 -0500

On 7/25/01 10:53:00 AM, Kevin Maxey wrote:
>I am beginning to think that
>it is time to call for a wake
>for FPO.
>
>Signs of a lack of life:
>- no promised update(s)
>- no talk of updates or fixes
>- no support for new version
>of Outlook
>- Webboard down to 2-3
>messages most days
>- No more enthusiasm on the
>board about how FC principles
>are helping them to manage
>their lives
>- No communication that isn't
>absolutely necessary from FC.
>
>Time to start getting the
>pipers together - the question
>I have is:
>Will it be a funeral for FPO,
>FPS or just for FC?

FPS, supposedly per FC, will be updated on the ever speedy FC timetable of late 2001, early 2002. If FC is true to form, perhaps an FPO update is in the offing before the FPS release. Might be time for you to shake up FC support to supply an answer.