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Subject: Terms and Conditions
From: Admin FCPSForum <fcpsforum@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 07:50:00 -0500

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Newsgroups: fcps.OnTarget
Subject: On the Palm extensions
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 00:12:00 -0500

I am experimenting with a fairly effective work around on the computer using FPO and custom fields. Datebk4 offers some very interesting extensions (e.g., converting a todo to Floating event that automatically forwards each day as untimed events)

I created an A1, A2... FCRank custom field in Outlook 2K and use it for all tasking.

By setting up the view to Group by Due Date and sort by FCRank, I get what I consider to be an even better PDTL view than PDTL!

Undated tasks (gee = MTL) sort to the bottom.

Overdue tasks show in red, etc.

Granted if you do too much long range planning of tasks, this can be distracting since the future tasks sort to the top. But I would bet that I could define a custom form/filter that overcomes that.

The real problem is playing the game on the Palm to get the ToDo display in Datebk4 to show them in the FCRank order. If I could add a custom field to the Palm ToDo (as Palm did with Address/Phone) and link it to FCRank, then use Datebk4 to sort by the custom field.... I would have it!

As for the other FPx features, I have found the flexibility in outlook 2k to duplicate most of what I used and the notes/dre/journal hotsinking using Chappura/Pocket Mirror and Datebk 4 is MUCH MUCH MUCH more intuative and stable!!! (Undupe does not cause information linking errors, either! - but then I have had very little need to use it.)

A note of interest.
If you save a copy of the PST files, uninstall FPO, then restore the saved PSTs....(you have to be careful to rebuild the same directory structure to reinstall the WMM.PST file)...
All the fields that FPO added are still there, as User Defined Fields. You just have to manually fill them in.

I do not like the work-around of putting the ABC in the text and have not focused in on a single method using icons, floats, etc to sort the tasks on the Palm. Otherwise the current method is much more efficient than fighting FPO.

Need that Palm ToDo linked field to a user defined field in Outlook (FCRank) and I would be thrilled with the Outlook/Datebk4 combination and never look back.

BTW Terry O: Outlook's import export capability gives you the ability to get at all the individual pieces of data from the PST file, even though you cannot directly edit it like you can in FPS's mdb. Automating (macros?) this would exceed even FPS's data manipulation capability.

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.OnTarget
Subject: On the Palm extensions
From: Terry Oplinger, Jr. <trojhome@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 11:15:00 -0500

Using VBS would allow for some very interesting app development. Sounds like you are on the right path. The only thing is I have lots of tasks... so my TODO list might be a little unmanageable.

Terry Oplinger, Jr.
Planner: '88
Ascend: 4.0 thru '97 6.1c
FPS: 7.0 thru 7.3
OnTarget: 2.3
Palm: Since '96... 1000/5000/Pro, III, IIIx, IIIc (OS 3.5)

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Newsgroups: fcps.OnTarget
Subject: On the Palm extensions
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 07:02:00 -0500

On 11/9/00 11:15:00 AM, Terry Oplinger, Jr. wrote:
>Using VBS would allow for some
>very interesting app
>development. Sounds like you
>are on the right path. The
>only thing is I have lots of
>tasks... so my TODO list might
>be a little unmanageable.
>
>Terry Oplinger, Jr.

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It might be more manageable than it first appears. Some of the quirks are that you have to crank up the palm first each day and hotsync before you do your planning. Something I did with FPS anyway. For Datebk4, this lets the Palm handle the TODOs that have been converted to FLOATS and lets Datebk4 move them to the current day.

Using the Chappura/Pocket Mirror option of having separate Outlook and Palm categories, allows the Outlook version to have multiple categories assigned to them. Using a second category would allow a VBS/Java HTML page display of tasks to sort and filter for about anything you wanted to dream up. That could solve your overload problem for Outlook display, at least. You could even separate out the display of your Chairmanship tasks from your work tasks from your personal tasks. (Would work for Appointments too!)

If you manually coordinate the sort/filter/control fields to the Palm, then datebk4 can be set to show only one category at a time......

Hmmm.....

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe

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Newsgroups: fcps.OnTarget
Subject: On the Palm extensions
From: Terry Oplinger, Jr. <trojhome@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:12:00 -0500

On 11/10/00 7:02:00 AM, Coe CWCJr wrote:
>On 11/9/00 11:15:00 AM, Terry Oplinger,
>Jr. wrote:
>>Using VBS would allow for some
>>very interesting app
>>development. Sounds like you
>>are on the right path. The
>>only thing is I have lots of
>>tasks... so my TODO list might
>>be a little unmanageable.
>>
>>Terry Oplinger, Jr.
>
>All ideas, words, phrases, and postings
>are implicitly mine. I retain the
>copyright to All posts... learn more
>here.
>It might be more manageable than it
>first appears. Some of the quirks are
>that you have to crank up the palm first
>each day and hotsync before you do your
>planning. Something I did with FPS
>anyway. For Datebk4, this lets the Palm
>handle the TODOs that have been
>converted to FLOATS and lets Datebk4
>move them to the current day.
>
>Using the Chappura/Pocket Mirror option
>of having separate Outlook and Palm
>categories, allows the Outlook version
>to have multiple categories assigned to
>them. Using a second category would
>allow a VBS/Java HTML page display of
>tasks to sort and filter for about
>anything you wanted to dream up. That
>could solve your overload problem for
>Outlook display, at least. You could
>even separate out the display of your
>Chairmanship tasks from your work tasks
>from your personal tasks. (Would work
>for Appointments too!)
>
>If you manually coordinate the
>sort/filter/control fields to the Palm,
>then datebk4 can be set to show only one
>category at a time......
>
>Hmmm.....

I do sync before any planning... And usually plan on the PC, before sync'ing a second time. Getting closer.

Terry Oplinger, Jr.
Planner: '88
Ascend: 4.0 thru '97 6.1c
FPS: 7.0 thru 7.3
OnTarget: 2.3
Palm: Since '96... 1000/5000/Pro, III, IIIx, IIIc (OS 3.5)

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Newsgroups: fcps.OnTarget
Subject: Some thoughts re PDTL
From: Coe CWCJr <cwcjunior@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 07:56:00 -0500

Hmmm.... reading through the Palm Programming manual provides some interesting possibilities for writing apps in access or excel that can interface to the PDTL database that is in the palm and on the computer (at least in the backup directory.)

Instead of mapping the data across multiple tables, as is done in FPS, a single table mapped over to Outlook or any other import/export template could be used for a two step sync to PDTL that the user has complete control of.....
Just a thought.....

While just one opinion among many, I hope this information was helpful...
Coe