is an organization named FreedomClubUSA that claims to use
"patriot" developed processes like "UCC" so its members can
“non-judicial” claims against other
parties that can be sold to some big international bank. Members
lots of money to secure these “non-judicial” judgments for
bux. They then wait around for the big, off-shore meeting in the
Bahamas where that
big, international bank will meet with the members and pay them
multi-millions for those “non-judicial” judgments. I learned
organization in 2007, a time when it was alleged that these
multi-millions in claims would soon be
paid. It did not happen then and will never happen because this
scam. This is an organization that uses patriotism and
arguments for the purpose of fleecing people.
Do some Internet web searches using the
terms “FreedomClubUSA” and “Scam” and some results will be the
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I just want to warm people about this
website. I put this in the news section because I believe that
relates to Zeitgeist members. I was looking for a way to get
support the TZM and TVP. I have some knowledge on the law were
suppose to know about such as the strawman the FED etc. so I was
looking for a way to use this information to my advantage. And
i come across? Freedom Club USA. When I first got on the website
figured it was a scam like all others but then I dived into the
website's information and it seemed pretty legit. Actually after
an hour of reading it had me convinced that I could turn debt
cash! It all seemed way to good to be true so I came down from
clouds and google'd "Freedom Club USA scam?" and sure enough
many ex-members very pissed because they put thousands of
their memberships with no "rewards" or "gain" in the end. Not
they put their money and time into this but their trust and
into it. If you don't understand that please go check out the
www.FreedomClubUSA.com. They make it look VERY convincing which
the more despicable. They have Mon-wednesday night calls where
all nice and pretend like they truly want to help people be
"healthy" and it makes me sick to listen to them blatantly lie
and honest people trying to stop foreclosures on their homes or
of debt. I probably would have joined and wasted thousands of
if it wasn't for the people who shared their experiences so I
share mine with everyone here. God this really pisses me off
people take advantage of other people like this. We really are a
up species for sure.
Anyway, I hoped I helped.
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February 15, 2008
Last posting: Saturday, December 27,
Freedom Club USA has advertised
3 year period to be an educational club, with information
multiple topics ranging from political and financial, to new age
alternative health. As part of the education, they offer a
into the club for a $300 fee, which opens up a special section
website with additional articles, as well as the ability to
on a "members-only" call held every Tuesday night.
The backbone of the club lies on an
Administrative Remedy (AR) program they claim is able to convert
debt and IRS bills into tax pre-paid cash. This is supposedly
accomplished by writing letters to the lending institution
evidence of the alleged debt. After the three letter process is
complete, the club notary claims to have a valid and legal
against the institution, which they brag is 100% successful.
the obtainment of the judgement, the club claims to have a
can pay for the value of the judgement by creating an unlimited
of "e-credits" on a computer. The payment element of the process
what the club claims they are working on since the inception of
Although the process sounds exciting,
there are pieces of information that the victim is not aware of
purchasing an AR. The first piece is that the founder, Tom
been claiming for nearly 2.5 years that funding is immenent.
been many many instances where he has said they are putting the
pieces together, and it never comes to fruition. The second
that the club has been reported to various law enforcement
including the FBI, the Secretary of State, the Attorney General,
FTC, etc. The third piece is that the head of the development
George Lake III, is a diagnosed schitzophrenic. The relevance of
fact is that he is the one who is putting together the computers
create the money, as well as creating a private UCC (called a GL
that is filed against the bank or IRS. The last piece is that
through an Administrative Remedy Process is legal, but it is
and cannot be used at an international or local level as
a verbal opinion provided by one of the directors of finance at
Swiss Bank in London, two judges, attorneys and others with
expertise who have reviewed a completed set of AR documents. All
GL UCC filings are irrelevant and they are NEVER filed with the
Secretary of State on behalf of the filer. This is a major fraud
perpetrated against the club member.
They do however gladly accept payments
for this process, at a cost of $3000 per AR, during this
period. The club (which includes the directors and consultants)
maintained a conduct of never accepting responsibility for any
that has emerged from their actions. Members have been through
divorces, foreclosures, one member is literally living out of
car, and one case where a member is now in a mental-ward.
these members cried out to the club for help, the club has
with a "we're not responsible" attitude.
Restitution in this matter could be
done two ways:
1. Pay the AR's in a timely manner.
Giving a new excuse every week, continually claiming the club is
brink of funding only diminishes any credibility the club has
I suspect thats not alot), and moves it into the realm of scam.
2. Close the doors and do not continue
to promote false hope to unsuspecting victims.
An Angry Member
New York, New York
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Note: this link
goes to Scams.com where you will find 41 long pages of
around for a while I think. I'm pretty sure it's the same
some offshoot of . there are some other inquiries about a
usa on this forum from almost a year ago.
They spent a couple of years charging
$2500 memberships in their club. They claimed they had an in
shore banks who could monetize admiralty law judgments via off
for third world countries that could use the cash, something
I remember it was some ridiculous rate of return like for a
mortage you the client would receive tens of millions of $$$.
never delivered anything for their club members, they promised
would deliver the cash to you inside 45 days from the time they
your admiralty law judgment.
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March 21, 2008
Posted: Friday, March 21, 2008
I've been a member of Freedom
Club USA for over a year now, and have been nothing but
them. I paid $3000 for an AR process because my consultant led
believe that Freedom Club had a process that could convert my
millions of dollars. He said they just needed a few more things
they would be ready to payout. Its been over a year, and all
to say is they thought they were there, we didn't realize how
was, its imminent (its been imminent for years), etc.
This is a friendly warning to fellow
readers. If you spend $3000 on an AR, all your going to get for
it is a
status update. An update does not pay the bills, money does.
have challenged the founder, Tom Lawler, on this issue. He ends
terminating their agreement, keeps the $3000, and threatens to
they speak out (this has been well documented).
Finally, I have to say some things
about your founder that may not be pleasant. Tom has a call on
Wednesday night where he shares his spiritual beliefs. He has
to believing in reincarnation, and reads books on New Age. He
spoken to spirits on open, public calls via a dowsing crystal,
quotes authors who say they have spoken to spirits. He has even
acknowledged Lucifer as a misunderstood being, saying he was
made to be
the scapegoat by the church. He believes that Buddah, Ghandi,
and Jesus were people with a higher consciousness. He has even
that Jesus' message was that he didn't come here to save you,
came to tell you how to save yourself. He has said all these
open, public calls, and whats worse is that your consultants
believe him and pagan rituals.
That is what your getting into when you
join this club.