TBellmail

Perhaps a lesson can be learned from the below. A man named Thurston Bell, whom many do not know, mouths off a lot on the Net. If people could really see what Tinker Bell says, they would be surprised. Here are some of his e-mails.

See complaint in US v. Bell

Subject: Re: Berglund
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:25:04 -0500
From: "Desk of Thurston P. Bell" <thurston@nite.org>
To: "Larry Becraft"
References: 1
Larry,

I have no control over the documents once they have been received by the member. I did notice that the file sizes were all changed, and I don't have time to review all of the documents word for word to be able to positively be able to answer these questions.

If I did have help delivering my ideas from more experienced and competent people, my arguments would be perfected by now.

When will I be receiving your e-mail notifying me of your willingness to help me perfect these arguments and lead everyone to complete victory, along with those posted at the results page?

Thurston

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Becraft"
To: "Thurston Bell" <thurston@nite.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 11:42 AM
Subject: Berglund

Did you draft these junky pleadings?

Larry

One of the pleadings drafted by Bell for Berglund is here.

Some months after asking me to assist him (I declined), Bell wrote the below wherein he states the amount of his "retainer" to "assist" others who are in trouble because of using his arguments. This note was forwarded to me.

Subject: Re: indictments against business owners who follow Banister
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:03:50 -0500
From: "Renee O Hara" <rohara5@home.com>
To: <JohnFeld@Taxgate.com>, "Justin Garriott" <jlawreview@prodigy.net>,"Rick Bryan" <rick@Taxgate.com>, "Nick Jesson" <NJESSON@aol.com>
CC: "Al Thompson" <AlThompson@cencal.com>
References: 1
Can you say greedy, opporunistic weasel? I bet Maddie wants a pool & a solarium before Spring. Seriously, I bet Tax Moses has yet to read the Revenue Act of 1978, and I doubt he has Regulations 111 from 1943.

Sean

    ----- Original Message -----
From: John
To: Justin Garriott ; Sean O'Harra ; Rick Bryan ; Ray Berglund ; Justin Garriott
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 9:03 PM
Subject: FW: indictments against business owners who follow Banister

    Good for a laugh.

-----Original Message-----
From: Al Thompson [mailto:AlThompson@cencal.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:23 PM
To: JohnFeld@Taxgate.com
Subject: Fw: indictments against business owners who follow Banister

    --
    Al Thompson
    Cencal Aviation Products
    http://www.cencal.com
    http://www.flightbag.com
    800 423-6225 International 1 530 275-0667
    Fax 530 275-0837
    ----- Original Message -----
From: Desk of Thurston P. Bell
To: Al Thompson; dick@arrowplastics.com
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 2:49 PM
Subject: indictments against business owners who follow Banister

    Dick and Al:

    In response to the Feb 10 David Cay Johnston article regarding the threats of prosecution against business owners for tax evasion, NITE is going public to advocate for Nick Jesson of NTD Electronics. We should have great success with Nick's case since he has stuck with my arguments since the very beginning and has not wavered.

    Joe Banister's arguments are doomed to fail in the courts and those who follow his ideas are doomed to face criminal tax evasion charges. In consideration of the fact that you have used NITE arguments in the past, I would like to afford you another opportunity to work with my method. My retainer cost is $25,000 since I have the only argument that will keep you out of jail. My only other condition is that you renounce Banister and everyone else with flawed arguments and stick to my guns.

    Feel free to contact me regarding this, but I advise you to move swiftly because NITE will be moving very soon on this.

    Thurston Bell

Subject:
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:09:24 -0600
From: "Ray Berglund" <berglund@palacenet.net>
To: <questions@nite.org>
CC: "Justin Garriott" <jlawreview@prodigy.net>, "John Feld" <johnfeld@usa.net>
I wake up this morning, (3-29-01) flip on the computer and find two unsolicited emails that serve to remind me about my greatest financial fiasco. (THE EMAILS ARE AT THE BOTTOM). Do you have any idea what it is like to be on the receiving end of your failed arguments? I wish for one day you could walk in my shoes having this burden hang over your head knowing that someone you trusted completely failed you. What I would like to know is how many others are out their that have had to suffer financial hardships due to your failed arguments?

You are like a cancer that won't go away. You enjoy periods of remission only to have it come back to ravage your body once again. That is the effect that these two unsolicited emails have on me. My anger disappears for a while because the only thing to remind me of your failures is the overtime I have to work to pay the taxes I didn't pay for 1996 through 1999. That is manageable. But when I get these emails my anger flares up and I'm forced to deal with your failures.

How is life these days Thurston? Do you still have a ton of spare time to go to the gun club with your arsenal of weapons to blow ammo off paid for with the money you make with your cookie cutter arguments? I remember how you use to brag about that to me over the phone. How many times did I call your house only to have Maddie tell me that you were at the club. That must be the reason your arguments failed, right?

Well, now that I have blown some steam off, (can't afford to go to the gun club) I'll get on with life until the next unsolicited email comes my way. Then I'll write you another one of these emails so that you won't be able to forget me just like the way that I can't forget you. I think that is fair, don't you? I can't wait for your response because I know you will. If you don't want anymore reminders, maybe you can email the carboned copy and tell them to leave me alone. I think that is a fair request, don't you?

BELOW ARE THE TWO UNSOLICITED EMAILS

----- Original Message -----
From: J Law Review <jlawreview@prodigy.net>
To: Larry Becraft
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: IRS §861 argument & NCBA]

Larry:

Thanks for the forward.

Tupper has always been a class act. Thurston simply lacks this quality completely.

Now that Thurston has promoted his way into the national limelight and adulation circle, it should be interesting to see where he goes when the subpoenas and Grand Jury indictments come down on some of these employers who have relied on his, and only his, "ARGUMENT TO END ALL ARGUMENTS", as he so humbly pointed out in our mano y mano email exchange, before he bailed.

It is my own opinion that the IRS cannot let this go unchallenged now that it's prominently in the public eye. On a case by case basis, done quietly, with the client's best welfare and protection in mind is one thing. To take an argument public, with a few employers along for the ride, while the goal is to promote yourself as the Guru of all Gurus, where these employers, but not Bell, are left to face of the awesome power of the US government, is quite another.

I have already been contacted by at least one employer, and been asked to address some of the others. Apparently, IRS officials are gearing up a grand jury in at least one case. It would be frightening indeed to see Thurston at the helm of a big Federal criminal indictment case, when he exhibits so little knowledge of the necessary procedures. This was amply displayed in the Ray Bergland case, where Bell was totally unaware that while in the administrative process, he was governed by (and could have taken serious advantage of) the Wisconsin rules of Civil Procedure. Alas, he learned and attempted to cure far too late.

Also, it appears to me that Bell tends to make 'factual arguments' and doesn't seem to understand the difference between that, and deriving proper "legal claims" from a set of facts. This was also obviously exhibited when he lost Bergland's case in summary judgment, indicating that he doesn't even know how to put his facts properly in controversy.

Of course, after Bell retreated from my challenging questions, and then so greatly honored me by deceptively editing my email so as to deceive his followers, and use it as a sales tool by publicly posting a dishonest representation of my words on the walls of his cyberland citadel, he showed his lack of integrity, and therefore his true colors (and my phone began to ring a lot more). It's only a matter of time before he self destructs, as he appears more paranoid all the time. The question is, who goes down with him? And, without him. It is not inconceivable that at least one of these employers, if indicted, and made to be an "example" for others, could end up with a prison "sentence to end all sentences".

I have just accepted an IRS indictment in the 5th Circuit (totally unrelated argument), so I will be keenly interested to see how this matter goes, and just how, and where, the IRS will attack this circumstance first. Good luck to the guys who put it on the line; I hope that they have a good idea of just what they may be up against.

Regards,

Justin

Here is the civil complaint filed against Dave Bossett, a man who used Bell's approach.

    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,       )
                                                                      )
                   Plaintiff                                    )
                                                                      )
                                                                      )
              v.                                                     )    Case No. 8:01CV633-T-17
                                                                      )
THE BOSSET PARTNERS                      )
MARKETING, INC.,                                  )
                                                                      )
              Defendant.                                    )

The United States of America, by and through Donna A. Bucella, United States Attorney for the Middle District of Florida, complains and alleges as follows:

1. This civil action is commenced pursuant to 26 U.S.C. §§ 7401 and 7405 at the direction of the Attorney General of the United States with the authorization and at the request of the Chief Counsel of the Internal Revenue Service, a delegate of the Secretary of the Treasury of the United States, seeking to recover an erroneous refund of income and FICA taxes.

2. This Court has jurisdiction over this action pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §§ 1340 and 1345, and 26 U.S.C. §§ 7402(a) and 7405.

3. The defendant is an inactive corporation, which was organized under the laws of the State of Florida, with its principal place of business in Spring Hill, Florida, within the jurisdiction of this Court.

5. On or about February 10, 1997, the defendant filed a Form 941, Employer's Quarterly Federal Tax Return, for the fourth quarter of 1996, and reported income and Social Security/Medicare Taxes in the amount of $18,427.90 based on wages of $71,409.16. The defendant submitted a payment of $18,427.90 with the Form 941.

6. On or about June 10, 1999, the defendant filed an "Amended and Corrected" Form 941 for the fourth quarter of 1996.

7. The "Amended and Corrected" Form 941 reduced to zero the amount of wages previously reported as having been paid in the fourth quarter of 1996. In a cover letter accompanying the "Amended and Corrected" Form 941, the defendant stated that its employees were not subject to income tax and that the amounts paid to its employees were not "wages" within the meaning of the Internal Revenue Code.

8. The "Amended and Corrected" return was treated as a claim for refund of Form 941 income and FICA taxes in the amount of $18,427.90, and was allowed by a duly authorized delegate of the Secretary of the Treasury in the amount of $18,427.88 plus interest of $3,488.57, for a total of $21,916.45. A refund with respect to this claim was issued in the amount of $21,916.45 on or about August 24, 1999.

9. The claim for refund referred to in paragraph eight was erroneously allowed and the refund was erroneously issued to the defendant.

10. The defendant is currently liable to the United States of America in the amount of $21,916.45, plus interest thereon as provided by law.

     WHEREFORE, the plaintiff, the United States of America, prays for the following relief:
     1.   That this Court find that the sum of $21,916.45 was erroneously refunded to the defendant, The Bosset Partners Marketing, Inc.;
     2.   That this Court find that the defendant, The Bosset Partners Marketing, Inc., is indebted to the United States of America in the amount of $21,916.45, plus interest thereon as allowed by 26 U.S.C. § 6602, from the date of the erroneous refund; and
     3.   That this Court grant the United States such other and further relief as is just and proper, including its costs of this action.

                              By:                     /s/
                              PATRICIA A. WILLING
                              Florida Bar No. 340251
                              Assistant United States Attorney
                              Middle District of Florida
                              400 Tampa Street, Suite 3200
                              Tampa, Florida 33602
                              Telephone:      (813) 274-6321
                              Facsimile:      (813) 274-6198

----- Original Message -----
From: Renee O Hara
To: Delco@yahoogroups.com ; Buddy Lala ; Blaine Stoner
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 2:08 PM
Subject: Fw: Dear Government, why won't you answer?
Below Thurston "Tax Moses" Bell actually demonstrates what reprehensible closet creep he really is. I do not agree with Bob Schulz on some issues, but I know him to be a decent and honorable man - more than myself, and alot more than Bell could ever try to pretend to be. Feel free to diseminate this to whoever you wish.

Sean O'Hara

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: ; 'Sean K. O'Hara'
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:22 PM
Subject: FW: Dear Government, why won't you answer?

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 7:55 PM
To:
Subject: Fwd: Dear Government, why won't you answer?

In a message dated 6/11/2001 9:28:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, thurston@nite.org writes:

Subj: Dear Government, why won't you answer?
Date: 6/11/2001 9:28:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:    thurston@nite.org (Thurston P. Bell)
To:    bob@givemeliberty.org (Bob Schulz)
CC:    members@nite.org

A GREAT majority of the issues RAISED by WE THE PEOPLE have been raised SO MANY TIMES by The People over the past 70 Years, that the COURTS have ruled that they are RES JUDICATA and FRIVOLOUS. Therefore, this man has already wasted everyone's time, everyone's money, everyone's credibility, especially his own, and now wants to starve himself to gather MORE ATTENTION to himself to causes that were lost, probably before he was born.

This seems like a predictable event since he has nothing left in his life in the realms of finance, credibility, and issues in his life.

We will give contribute $200 towards his burial fund, as long as no monument is erected.

Thurston P. Bell

Subject: RE: [Fwd: QUITTER]
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:59:24 -0500
From: "NITE Web Admin" <webmaster@nite.org>
To: "Larry Becraft"
CC: "Gordon Phillips" <gordon@informamerica.com>, "John Kotmair"
<sam@save-a-patriot.org>, "Mike Maddox" <accato@fuse.net>, "Ace Earp"
<acearp@starpower.net>

Who told you I was a Christian? As a matter of fact, what gave you the impression that I am a "religious" person?

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Maddie

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Becraft [mailto:becraft@hiwaay.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:31 PM
To: webmaster@nite.org
Cc: Gordon Phillips; John Kotmair; Mike Maddox; Ace Earp
Subject: [Fwd: Berglund]

Dear Mrs. Bell,

    Just read your recent note. For somebody who professes to be a Christian, I am surprised at your profanity. I must note for you that the facts alleged in that note are incorrect. I NEVER approached your husband to join his organization; as the below shows, he asked me after I noted to him his junky pleadings in the Berglund case.

    From the tone of your note, it appears that you are on a psychotic edge; may I suggest that you seek professional help?

                Larry

In a message dated 11/27/2001 2:29:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, thurston@nite.org writes:

Subj: Follow Up email
Date:11/27/2001 2:29:00 PM Eastern Standard Time
From:thurston@nite.org
To:members@nite.org

Sent from the Internet

Those of you who are sending requests to be removed from the list, as well as return applications, has given us GREAT insight as to knowing who actually reads what is sent out. Some people have understood clearly what the situation is, while others who have used and applied our strategies seek for us to remove them from the member rolls.

We are sorry, but we can ONLY remove those that we KNOW who have NOT implemented the NITE Strategies. We will not avail ourselves to altering something that the government may later deem as evidence.

When Dave has had an opportunity to settle down to his new surroundings, and our response to the lawsuit is published, many of you may feel very differently about the requests that you've made, because we are going show the DOJ be the fools they are on our website before they have a chance to shut us down.

The more I have thought about this case the more comfortable I have become, as I get to be the one to do the arguing. If we win, the IRS will never be able to recover. If we are censored by the Courts, the work of NITE will become more powerful and sweeping than they could have ever imagined.

Either way folks, we win, watch for changes at tax-gate.com in the coming days, the fraudulence of the government will be exposed NOW, not later. I doubt that the New York Times will publish what you are about to see.

Please understand that I have executed my obligations at every step with the intent to allow each of you to know the options before you, and to have a realistic understanding of the conditions of your cases.

THIS I know that you cannot receive anywhere ELSE in the Country, and I will persist all through this long drawn out court process against me.

Once again, to those who have NOT implemented NITE strategies and have requested their resignation from our rolls, you will continue to receive email and be on the list until we will receive a formal request by snail mail along with a SASE for the return of your applications.

Thurston